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DB7-11 VLX MULE resurrection
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djt77



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 17, 2017 2:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can't wait for this to be finished. How much longer do you think Gavin?
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Gavin944888



Joined: 29 Jan 2014
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Location: Essex....way South of Scotland

PostPosted: Mon Nov 20, 2017 2:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Hello..........things move on ....and as the fabrication takes place the carbon body panel sourcing is now complete....and some are available to whoever.



IMG_0534 by Gavin Robertson, on Flickr


Front DB7 carbon mudguard surplus to requirements and brand new...available at 200 plus post.



IMG_0535 by Gavin Robertson, on Flickr



The worlds most expensive fairing /dash support and its' cheaper brother



IMG_0536 by Gavin Robertson, on Flickr



I paid over 650 euro excluding shipping for the shiny one and set about sourcing the actual maker in Italy......a lot cheaper but needs some lacquer



IMG_0537 by Gavin Robertson, on Flickr


The rear mudguard ...the same one that is on the DB7-8-9 and DB11 VLX.


IMG_0528 - Copy by Gavin Robertson, on Flickr



I bought a batch of 3 (to drive the price down)...165 plus postage ....OEM over 385 euro each (no shipping!)


I do not want to let seem like an advert BUT over the build I have acquired from various sources items some I will use.

Sometimes bought 3 off when I only needed 1off and some which I planned to use but then changed my mind the real thing turned up!

So here are the images and basically whatever is left over will be placed up for sale.



IMG_0538 by Gavin Robertson, on Flickr



Above is the virtually extinct Bimota rear number plate assembly which replaced this planned alternative


IMG_0540 by Gavin Robertson, on Flickr



An OEM unit from a SB 8 version complete with smoke indicators sourced from the USA....so it is also available for sale



IMG_0539 by Gavin Robertson, on Flickr


IMG_0541 by Gavin Robertson, on Flickr



Above are a set of fairing infill panel and a lower chain and rear mudguard section .....one brand new one NOS sourced from San Marino



IMG_0543 by Gavin Robertson, on Flickr



Above is OEM NOS quality control failed belly pan......someone managed to crease the B then lacquered over it!!


Then....the most expensive item....over 4200 euro from Bimota albeit when finished and painted..this cost me 2000 euro


IMG_0544 by Gavin Robertson, on Flickr


This one is finished but not lacquered........trying to cover my costs at 1800 plus postman pat!



IMG_0542 by Gavin Robertson, on Flickr



I placed an order (with the factory) and paid for the side subframes as used on the DB11.....hence the reason for selling the DB7 carbon seat.

These never turned up.... along with various wiring bits and the handlebar clamps.....so I changed direction.


My mate; Tony the Paint ...likes the DB9S carbon and wants the longer tail section as per my DB9...so it 'may' be for sale or not depending on him sourcing a DB9S carbon



XPD6 by Gavin Robertson, on Flickr



And I have fabricated the alloy rear subframe using my DB9 as a model and plan to use this I have lying about in the garage



IMG_0545 by Gavin Robertson, on Flickr



IMG_0546 by Gavin Robertson, on Flickr



So there you have it....the body work is going on....BUT


some OEM stuff is excess and I still have not decided if we use the Walbro ECU and Bimota DB7 wiring (probably more expensive than gold) or the BIMOTA electronic stuff including a new DB7 Dash.



IMG_0093 by Gavin Robertson, on Flickr


I really like the DB7 dash as it matches the DB7 mule .....however that flatscreen thing on the DB11 VLX is something else.....and if I raise enough cash back from all other bits...who knows.


Back soon with updates on Pulley arrangements ...a bit like flower arranging but no foliage......the seat assembly and everything in place

And maybe...maybe I would have signed off on the electrics....have I told you that ...I hate electrics?

regards

Gavin
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Gavin944888



Joined: 29 Jan 2014
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Location: Essex....way South of Scotland

PostPosted: Mon Nov 20, 2017 3:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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DJT77

All the bits will be on except the wiring and it will be ready by Xmas.

I lost 6 weeks due to the first wiring disaster and I want to make the correct decision this time.

The guy I am using is finishing off Triumph to some Shiek (50K) conversion a kind of Lawrence of Arabia bike with massive single headlamp and a speed as per the Vincent.

After that, mine is one the bench....it is just whether we run it up without the Supecharger and set up or use my DB9 as base setting and rewrite a programme with the proposed uplift.

Should see the light of day after all the Dyno runs before the race season starts here in March

regards

Gavin
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Cagiva Elefant 944/ST2 engined
Cagiva Elefant 888/955 engined
Cagiva Elefant 999r engined

BIMOTA DB9 1198 engined
BIMOTA DB7 VLX MULE (project build)
a Zues Book, French fag packet and hope.
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Gavin944888



Joined: 29 Jan 2014
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Location: Essex....way South of Scotland

PostPosted: Mon Nov 27, 2017 12:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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So.....things crack on at a fair pace and after the carbon bodywork comes the seat subframe and various other bits of machining.


Being big boned (bless) bars and pegs have to be extended in length and width.

So another 55mm was added to each side of the bars and the footpegs got 45mm extensions to suit my size 11 club feet (pins in both ankles!)



IMG_0525 by Gavin Robertson, on Flickr


Some 10mm thick alloy plate was sourced and the template from the DB9 was drawn onto the sheet.


IMG_0554 by Gavin Robertson, on Flickr



The sheet was taken to the band saw and shaped to suit.


IMG_0557 by Gavin Robertson, on Flickr



Before going on the mill where the side plates had 6mm wide by 6mm deep slots cut into the surface to aid the bending to shape.



IMG_0555 by Gavin Robertson, on Flickr



IMG_0560 by Gavin Robertson, on Flickr



Nothing could be finalized until the tank was finally positioned to clear the air box .


Which in turn mean spaces 20 mm thick being attached to the rear section of the tank support.


IMG_0553 by Gavin Robertson, on Flickr



Once the alloy had been bent to shape it could be offered up to see how the seat unit sat.


IMG_0559 by Gavin Robertson, on Flickr


Once everything was basically in the correct area....detailing could start and the milling machine put to good use.
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On an Island in the Thames.

Cagiva Elefant 944/ST2 engined
Cagiva Elefant 888/955 engined
Cagiva Elefant 999r engined

BIMOTA DB9 1198 engined
BIMOTA DB7 VLX MULE (project build)
a Zues Book, French fag packet and hope.
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Gavin944888



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Location: Essex....way South of Scotland

PostPosted: Mon Nov 27, 2017 4:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Still getting used to this posting malarky......hitting the buttons before I am finished.

Anyway there was a couple of bits of finishing required on the Oil Cooler and yokes.

The forks were capped off by these....I will do some detailing latter on before anodizing



IMG_0550 by Gavin Robertson, on Flickr


Over and above this the side pulley assembly had to be spaced and machined.

The supercharger had been fixed and lines drawn down to help locate the final position of the pullies.

The main cluth pulley coming off of the layshaft was mounted to the outboard and the supercarger puller to the inboard.


IMG_0551 by Gavin Robertson, on Flickr



Additional adjustment was achieved by machining new belt grooves in the outboard pulley allowing the belt to be postioned on the best suited grooves rather than those available.


This is the position BEFORE adding additional groves and it looks out there...not finished


By adding more grooves the large Superchargered pulley could be let into the pulley cover giving a very snug apperance.


IMG_0552 by Gavin Robertson, on Flickr


Not finished.... but the pulley supports are being mounted and extensions fabricated and the bearings for the large pulley are mounted in and behind the sideplate.


The centres were located before the sideplate was removed and set up on the Milling machine for finishing.


As the machining is reaching an end, the airbox is being blasted, ceracoted, then blasted on the outside again prior to heat resistance crinkle finish being applied....more images soon.

regards
Gavin
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Cagiva Elefant 944/ST2 engined
Cagiva Elefant 888/955 engined
Cagiva Elefant 999r engined

BIMOTA DB9 1198 engined
BIMOTA DB7 VLX MULE (project build)
a Zues Book, French fag packet and hope.
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Gavin944888



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 05, 2017 2:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello..again!

Right, I have decided (well actually the electronics guy has decided) that the chosen route is a MICROTEC ECU and a custom built wiring loom.

It appears that the version chosen of ECU is capable of working normally asperated and also superchargered engines.

We will be building a normally asperated bike with the air coming through the torturist airbox design but with the supercharger removed and just a hole where it used to be.

The base settings and ECU will work on a 'best case scenario' before retro fiting the Supercharger.

This should give us before and after (supercharger) values and although the before will be compared to a standard DB9 settings.

It is the engine from the DB9 (Ducati Diavel 1198) that is being used rather than the 1098 dry clutch unit as fitted to the DB7(this is what BIMOTA did)

Now that the decision has been made, all my redundant OEM BIMOTA wiring loom, ECU and Dash are going up for sale.

The bike will not be heading to the test rig until the end of January 2018

So ........next posting will include some more images and general update as all other things are now at a standstill.

regards

Gavin
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Cagiva Elefant 944/ST2 engined
Cagiva Elefant 888/955 engined
Cagiva Elefant 999r engined

BIMOTA DB9 1198 engined
BIMOTA DB7 VLX MULE (project build)
a Zues Book, French fag packet and hope.
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Gavin944888



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 11:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It gets a bit depressing when you are waiting for other folk to complete their section of the build.

But I have uncovered some new images of the sections covered so far and a bit of detailing.

The fork caps were a bit basic and I really wanted to copy the detail carried out on the DB9 but I could not find what I wanted.

So quick search on the tin tin net and I found these little reservoir covers for under 10.00 delivered!


IMG_0587 by Gavin Robertson, on Flickr


I took the original caps and counter bored them to suit


IMG_0550 by Gavin Robertson, on Flickr


Like this and then anodized them along with some other items for detailing.


IMG_0586 by Gavin Robertson, on Flickr


IMG_0580 by Gavin Robertson, on Flickr


Stuck them in an oven to get them to expand and pressed the sections together


IMG_0592 by Gavin Robertson, on Flickr



IMG_0590 by Gavin Robertson, on Flickr



IMG_0600 by Gavin Robertson, on Flickr


From this ...to this


IMG_0601 by Gavin Robertson, on Flickr



IMG_0602 by Gavin Robertson, on Flickr


It would have cost a lot more to machine anything similar or to lose the 'blocky effect' of the plain caps.



In addition there was the pinch nut detail........here it is before.


IMG_0456 by Gavin Robertson, on Flickr


IMG_0604 by Gavin Robertson, on Flickr


To this.............the anodized section with a push fit


IMG_0605 by Gavin Robertson, on Flickr


To this... finished item


IMG_0606 by Gavin Robertson, on Flickr


and complete with finger prints ....really needs a wipe down with an oily rag.


IMG_0607 by Gavin Robertson, on Flickr
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On an Island in the Thames.

Cagiva Elefant 944/ST2 engined
Cagiva Elefant 888/955 engined
Cagiva Elefant 999r engined

BIMOTA DB9 1198 engined
BIMOTA DB7 VLX MULE (project build)
a Zues Book, French fag packet and hope.
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Gavin944888



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 12:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The forks and top yoke are now complete and it is just a matter of fitting the ignition switch and finish.


Untitled by Gavin Robertson, on Flickr



The Ducati master cylinders from the Diavel were a bit 'shouty' but I have to tip a nod to the Ducati design ......but find something bimota....ish



I tried with the fork caps to incorporate the Bimota 'B' but to no avail....so some key rings were sourced and set upon.



IMG_0609 by Gavin Robertson, on Flickr


The caps were machined to take off the DUCATI


These were found...stainless steel laser cut..and they fit better than the photo shows....once they were dressed up on the linisher.



IMG_0610 by Gavin Robertson, on Flickr



Dropped into the machined slot prior to going to the powder coating company with all the other stuff.



IMG_0608 by Gavin Robertson, on Flickr



The airbox was taken and machined flat....then stripped of all the sensors.



IMG_0571 by Gavin Robertson, on Flickr



The lids were positioned and welded to suit



IMG_0576 (1) by Gavin Robertson, on Flickr


Before being blast cleaned and coated.



IMG_0614 by Gavin Robertson, on Flickr



IMG_0615 by Gavin Robertson, on Flickr



The powder coating company masked off all the areas for mating and blasted and 'crinkle cut' coated the finish.



IMG_0612 by Gavin Robertson, on Flickr



The masking was need to keep the mating surfaces and o ring sealing slots intact.



IMG_0616 by Gavin Robertson, on Flickr



IMG_0617 by Gavin Robertson, on Flickr


Once everything was collected.........it all just needs tidying up prior to gasket cutting.


IMG_0613 by Gavin Robertson, on Flickr#


The belt drive section has also been finished and I am awaiting some belt tension information.........more forums and explaining what I am doing.


The seat section is the last area which is being worked on..........although I am toying whether to go 2 into 2 exhausts as per my original sketch.

We will see.......


Next images will show the supercharger fitted and complete along with oil cooler and other odds and sods.


Xmas is coming

regards

Gavin.
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Cagiva Elefant 944/ST2 engined
Cagiva Elefant 888/955 engined
Cagiva Elefant 999r engined

BIMOTA DB9 1198 engined
BIMOTA DB7 VLX MULE (project build)
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welshlamb



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 5:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gavin, its been said before, but your attention to detail is truly bloody amazing. This creation should go on show at a design centre to show the difference between engineering and design and the pains of trying to marry the two. Very addictive reading but a bit like comparing my skills to Marquez on the track...i.e. pointless aspiration!!

KeeeeeeP on posting!!
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