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Jonny B Bad
Joined: 05 Dec 2009 Posts: 555 Location: NE London
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Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2018 11:12 am Post subject: 6 vs 6R |
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Biggest difference between the 6 and the 6R (leaving aside that the 6 is the pin-up and the 6R is the girl next door) is the "feel" given by the relative weight of the wheels. If you put lighter wheels on the 6R Geekay, life would be much tougher every time you opened the garage door! In fact, it might get so tough that eventually it became easy! _________________ What, Jonny's gone! |
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GeeKay
Joined: 29 May 2009 Posts: 1767 Location: West Yorkshire
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Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2018 1:14 pm Post subject: |
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fair point Jonny. But if I was considering fitting lighter wheels to either of the bikes, the 6R would be sold to fund a pair of BST carbon wheels for the 6, making it even better than sublime _________________ Bimota SB6 and Benelli TNT 899S road bikes.
Beta Techno trials iron. Project bikes:- Suzuki V4 500, TS185 cafe racer, XR11/71, Kettle/Katana, TDRGV250, OR50, Gag125,Triumph T595 and a Triumph X75 Hurricane replica.
Too many projects............... |
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Evilchicken0
Joined: 12 May 2010 Posts: 2996 Location: London
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Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2018 2:04 pm Post subject: |
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GeeKay wrote: |
fair point Jonny. But if I was considering fitting lighter wheels to either of the bikes, the 6R would be sold to fund a pair of BST carbon wheels for the 6, making it even better than sublime |
BST don't fit the 6, you need Dymags _________________ Don't read everything you believe |
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2bims
Joined: 03 Apr 2010 Posts: 7292
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Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2018 3:59 pm Post subject: |
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Evilchicken0 wrote: |
GeeKay wrote: |
fair point Jonny. But if I was considering fitting lighter wheels to either of the bikes, the 6R would be sold to fund a pair of BST carbon wheels for the 6, making it even better than sublime |
BST don't fit the 6, you need Dymags |
You have oscoms on your SB6 Geekay....so you'd have to spend a heap of money to make very small difference as the oscoms are light anyhow..tiny hubs...and very narrow hence the deep set offset discs...The anteras are heavy...and comparison of wheels is as below....from recollection the Oscom 3 spokes are only around 1/2Kg heavier than the Dymag alloys.....biggest difference is in ditching Anteras in favour of any other wheel in effect
Antera ...................................Front 6kg Rear 8.95kg
BST carbon.............................Front 2.95kg Rear 5 kg
Dymag 7 spoke forged alloy.....Front 3.45kg rear 5.9kg
Dymag carbon........................Front 2.75kg rear 4.75kg. |
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GeeKay
Joined: 29 May 2009 Posts: 1767 Location: West Yorkshire
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Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2018 8:13 pm Post subject: |
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Evilchicken0 wrote: |
BST don't fit the 6, you need Dymags |
Just testing, Boris...........................
I'm not spending big money on the 6R as I don't intend on keeping it. I have my eye on something else with the dreaded "b" logo on it............. _________________ Bimota SB6 and Benelli TNT 899S road bikes.
Beta Techno trials iron. Project bikes:- Suzuki V4 500, TS185 cafe racer, XR11/71, Kettle/Katana, TDRGV250, OR50, Gag125,Triumph T595 and a Triumph X75 Hurricane replica.
Too many projects............... |
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GeeKay
Joined: 29 May 2009 Posts: 1767 Location: West Yorkshire
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Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2018 8:15 pm Post subject: |
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2bims wrote: |
You have oscoms on your SB6 Geekay....so you'd have to spend a heap of money to make very small difference as the oscoms are light anyhow..tiny hubs...and very narrow hence the deep set offset discs...The anteras are heavy...and comparison of wheels is as below....from recollection the Oscom 3 spokes are only around 1/2Kg heavier than the Dymag alloys.....biggest difference is in ditching Anteras in favour of any other wheel in effect
Antera ...................................Front 6kg Rear 8.95kg
BST carbon.............................Front 2.95kg Rear 5 kg
Dymag 7 spoke forged alloy.....Front 3.45kg rear 5.9kg
Dymag carbon........................Front 2.75kg rear 4.75kg. |
cheers Steve ! _________________ Bimota SB6 and Benelli TNT 899S road bikes.
Beta Techno trials iron. Project bikes:- Suzuki V4 500, TS185 cafe racer, XR11/71, Kettle/Katana, TDRGV250, OR50, Gag125,Triumph T595 and a Triumph X75 Hurricane replica.
Too many projects............... |
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2bims
Joined: 03 Apr 2010 Posts: 7292
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Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2018 8:22 pm Post subject: |
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GeeKay wrote: |
Evilchicken0 wrote: |
BST don't fit the 6, you need Dymags |
Just testing, Boris...........................
I'm not spending big money on the 6R as I don't intend on keeping it. I have my eye on something else with the dreaded "b" logo on it............. |
Sounds new to me....BMW....Benelli.....Bultaco...that would be nice....Big Dog???...Britten...BSA???...Cant think of any other brands.... |
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brian
Joined: 22 Aug 2011 Posts: 3769 Location: Australia
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Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2018 11:48 pm Post subject: |
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GeeKay wrote: |
fair point Jonny. But if I was considering fitting lighter wheels to either of the bikes, the 6R would be sold to fund a pair of BST carbon wheels for the 6, making it even better than sublime |
I like the way you think Gaz... the 6 is definitely a keeper.
Maybe just keep the 6R as a display piece in the living room without the bodywork on _________________ '99 DB4 #104, '96 SB6 #1165, '94 DB2 J #652, '99 DB4 #088, '08 VTX1800, '93 ZXR750R M1, '95 ZXR750, '95 ZXR750 Race Bike, '94 CBR400rr NC29 Race Bike, '94 CB250, '49 BSA C10 250, '61 BSA A10 650, '89 ZXR750, '91 Ducati 851 |
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brian
Joined: 22 Aug 2011 Posts: 3769 Location: Australia
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Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2018 11:50 pm Post subject: |
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2bims wrote: |
Evilchicken0 wrote: |
GeeKay wrote: |
fair point Jonny. But if I was considering fitting lighter wheels to either of the bikes, the 6R would be sold to fund a pair of BST carbon wheels for the 6, making it even better than sublime |
BST don't fit the 6, you need Dymags |
You have oscoms on your SB6 Geekay....so you'd have to spend a heap of money to make very small difference as the oscoms are light anyhow..tiny hubs...and very narrow hence the deep set offset discs...The anteras are heavy...and comparison of wheels is as below....from recollection the Oscom 3 spokes are only around 1/2Kg heavier than the Dymag alloys.....biggest difference is in ditching Anteras in favour of any other wheel in effect
Antera ...................................Front 6kg Rear 8.95kg
BST carbon.............................Front 2.95kg Rear 5 kg
Dymag 7 spoke forged alloy.....Front 3.45kg rear 5.9kg
Dymag carbon........................Front 2.75kg rear 4.75kg. |
Great comparison Steve. I didn’t realise just how heavy the Antera’s are _________________ '99 DB4 #104, '96 SB6 #1165, '94 DB2 J #652, '99 DB4 #088, '08 VTX1800, '93 ZXR750R M1, '95 ZXR750, '95 ZXR750 Race Bike, '94 CBR400rr NC29 Race Bike, '94 CB250, '49 BSA C10 250, '61 BSA A10 650, '89 ZXR750, '91 Ducati 851 |
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brian
Joined: 22 Aug 2011 Posts: 3769 Location: Australia
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Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2018 11:54 pm Post subject: |
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2bims wrote: |
GeeKay wrote: |
Evilchicken0 wrote: |
BST don't fit the 6, you need Dymags |
Just testing, Boris...........................
I'm not spending big money on the 6R as I don't intend on keeping it. I have my eye on something else with the dreaded "b" logo on it............. |
Sounds new to me....BMW....Benelli.....Bultaco...that would be nice....Big Dog???...Britten...BSA???...Cant think of any other brands.... |
If I had to gues I would say it starts with B and ends in A (and doesn’t have an S in it ) _________________ '99 DB4 #104, '96 SB6 #1165, '94 DB2 J #652, '99 DB4 #088, '08 VTX1800, '93 ZXR750R M1, '95 ZXR750, '95 ZXR750 Race Bike, '94 CBR400rr NC29 Race Bike, '94 CB250, '49 BSA C10 250, '61 BSA A10 650, '89 ZXR750, '91 Ducati 851 |
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2bims
Joined: 03 Apr 2010 Posts: 7292
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Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2018 12:47 am Post subject: |
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brian wrote: |
2bims wrote: |
Evilchicken0 wrote: |
GeeKay wrote: |
fair point Jonny. But if I was considering fitting lighter wheels to either of the bikes, the 6R would be sold to fund a pair of BST carbon wheels for the 6, making it even better than sublime |
BST don't fit the 6, you need Dymags |
You have oscoms on your SB6 Geekay....so you'd have to spend a heap of money to make very small difference as the oscoms are light anyhow..tiny hubs...and very narrow hence the deep set offset discs...The anteras are heavy...and comparison of wheels is as below....from recollection the Oscom 3 spokes are only around 1/2Kg heavier than the Dymag alloys.....biggest difference is in ditching Anteras in favour of any other wheel in effect
Antera ...................................Front 6kg Rear 8.95kg
BST carbon.............................Front 2.95kg Rear 5 kg
Dymag 7 spoke forged alloy.....Front 3.45kg rear 5.9kg
Dymag carbon........................Front 2.75kg rear 4.75kg. |
Great comparison Steve. I didn’t realise just how heavy the Antera’s are |
I cant quite find the Oscom wheel masses....although pretty sure its on here somewhere....but less than a kilo difference per wheel than the dymag alloys......Rumour was with the Anteras was that Bimota wasn't very happy with them and never paid Antera for any of the wheels supplied...but then...it wouldn't be Bimota if there wasn't rumours about suppliers not being paid |
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2bims
Joined: 03 Apr 2010 Posts: 7292
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Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2018 12:49 am Post subject: |
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brian wrote: |
2bims wrote: |
GeeKay wrote: |
Evilchicken0 wrote: |
BST don't fit the 6, you need Dymags |
Just testing, Boris...........................
I'm not spending big money on the 6R as I don't intend on keeping it. I have my eye on something else with the dreaded "b" logo on it............. |
Sounds new to me....BMW....Benelli.....Bultaco...that would be nice....Big Dog???...Britten...BSA???...Cant think of any other brands.... |
If I had to gues I would say it starts with B and ends in A (and doesn’t have an S in it ) |
I'm with you there also Brian....I'm reckoning he wants to try a Tamburini bike....hes been there and "done it" with SB8, DB2 and DB3...and ridden DB4/DB5/DB6 and Vdue.....but I'm guessing and going with KB1 |
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brian
Joined: 22 Aug 2011 Posts: 3769 Location: Australia
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Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2018 1:20 am Post subject: |
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2bims wrote: |
brian wrote: |
2bims wrote: |
GeeKay wrote: |
Evilchicken0 wrote: |
BST don't fit the 6, you need Dymags |
Just testing, Boris...........................
I'm not spending big money on the 6R as I don't intend on keeping it. I have my eye on something else with the dreaded "b" logo on it............. |
Sounds new to me....BMW....Benelli.....Bultaco...that would be nice....Big Dog???...Britten...BSA???...Cant think of any other brands.... |
If I had to gues I would say it starts with B and ends in A (and doesn’t have an S in it ) |
I'm with you there also Brian....I'm reckoning he wants to try a Tamburini bike....hes been there and "done it" with SB8, DB2 and DB3...and ridden DB4/DB5/DB6 and Vdue.....but I'm guessing and going with KB1 |
Too much to choose from in your part of the world! Very slim pickings down here... unless you’re cashed up and can afford to import your own. But then, very few models that can be legally ridden on Australian roads _________________ '99 DB4 #104, '96 SB6 #1165, '94 DB2 J #652, '99 DB4 #088, '08 VTX1800, '93 ZXR750R M1, '95 ZXR750, '95 ZXR750 Race Bike, '94 CBR400rr NC29 Race Bike, '94 CB250, '49 BSA C10 250, '61 BSA A10 650, '89 ZXR750, '91 Ducati 851 |
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GeeKay
Joined: 29 May 2009 Posts: 1767 Location: West Yorkshire
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Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2018 4:32 pm Post subject: |
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much as I would like a KB1, there is no room for negotiation on the one that has been on ebay for a long time. However, this is not the case with the very nice BB1.................. _________________ Bimota SB6 and Benelli TNT 899S road bikes.
Beta Techno trials iron. Project bikes:- Suzuki V4 500, TS185 cafe racer, XR11/71, Kettle/Katana, TDRGV250, OR50, Gag125,Triumph T595 and a Triumph X75 Hurricane replica.
Too many projects............... |
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GeeKay
Joined: 29 May 2009 Posts: 1767 Location: West Yorkshire
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Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2018 4:45 pm Post subject: |
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It was Yorkshire Air Ambulance day today at the Seaway's cafe. With such nice weather, I thought it rude not to attend..............
even the helicopter made a welcome appearance too.......
_________________ Bimota SB6 and Benelli TNT 899S road bikes.
Beta Techno trials iron. Project bikes:- Suzuki V4 500, TS185 cafe racer, XR11/71, Kettle/Katana, TDRGV250, OR50, Gag125,Triumph T595 and a Triumph X75 Hurricane replica.
Too many projects............... |
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