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rpo83
Joined: 28 Oct 2008 Posts: 387 Location: Melbourne, Australia
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Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2011 10:58 am Post subject: |
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For the unoffical registry, i have #949..
Cheers
Steve |
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crankcase
Joined: 09 Nov 2011 Posts: 387 Location: Frankfurt Germany
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Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2011 11:59 am Post subject: |
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oily wrote: |
2bims wrote: |
oily wrote: |
I'd fit rivnuts in the frame and then use posh, stainless polished bolts |
You kind of have to use rivets, the plate on the Db2 has 2 holes predrilled in it, even the re manufactured ones, that match up to the two holes in the tubular frame, and then of course its tubing so the frame plate has to be bent around to fit the shape. Use all the glue you want, but rivets mean it can't be so easily prised off by some Oike or at least they'll try if they dont see any rivets
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Ah, yes, tube.........
I was sort of thinking a proper frame such as, I don't know, perhaps an SB6
I think all the chassis plates are the same across the range |
the DB2 plate is a slimmer and much more nimble chassis plate because it doesn't have to carry so much weight around, I think you'll find. _________________ Bimota DB2 tricolore, Bimota YB4e.i, Ducati 851 tricolore, Ducati Hailwood Replica, 1968 Gitan Grillo sport, Yamaha GTS1000, Honda Deauville, Honda GB500 Clubman
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oily
Joined: 05 Apr 2008 Posts: 4788 Location: worcestershire
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Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2011 12:08 pm Post subject: |
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crankcase wrote: |
oily wrote: |
2bims wrote: |
oily wrote: |
I'd fit rivnuts in the frame and then use posh, stainless polished bolts |
You kind of have to use rivets, the plate on the Db2 has 2 holes predrilled in it, even the re manufactured ones, that match up to the two holes in the tubular frame, and then of course its tubing so the frame plate has to be bent around to fit the shape. Use all the glue you want, but rivets mean it can't be so easily prised off by some Oike or at least they'll try if they dont see any rivets
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Ah, yes, tube.........
I was sort of thinking a proper frame such as, I don't know, perhaps an SB6
I think all the chassis plates are the same across the range |
the DB2 plate is a slimmer and much more nimble chassis plate because it doesn't have to carry so much weight around, I think you'll find. |
Of course......
That'll be why it only needs the horse power of a lawn mower |
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Evilchicken0
Joined: 12 May 2010 Posts: 2996 Location: London
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Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2011 6:12 pm Post subject: |
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The plate maybe nimble but the rivets weigh it down. _________________ Don't read everything you believe |
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brian
Joined: 22 Aug 2011 Posts: 3769 Location: Australia
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Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2011 2:57 am Post subject: |
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vort28 wrote: |
But how many are left in existance ?? |
Ahh yes... the million dollar question. Sure would be nice to know the answer, but i fear we will never know. _________________ '99 DB4 #104, '96 SB6 #1165, '94 DB2 J #652, '99 DB4 #088, '08 VTX1800, '93 ZXR750R M1, '95 ZXR750, '95 ZXR750 Race Bike, '94 CBR400rr NC29 Race Bike, '94 CB250, '49 BSA C10 250, '61 BSA A10 650, '89 ZXR750, '91 Ducati 851 |
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brian
Joined: 22 Aug 2011 Posts: 3769 Location: Australia
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Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2011 3:09 am Post subject: |
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I know it's unwise to assume (especially when it comes to Bimota!)... however, would i be correct in assuming that the frames of the SB6, SB6R and SB7 are all identical? Even though the 6R's have they're own number sequence. _________________ '99 DB4 #104, '96 SB6 #1165, '94 DB2 J #652, '99 DB4 #088, '08 VTX1800, '93 ZXR750R M1, '95 ZXR750, '95 ZXR750 Race Bike, '94 CBR400rr NC29 Race Bike, '94 CB250, '49 BSA C10 250, '61 BSA A10 650, '89 ZXR750, '91 Ducati 851 |
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oily
Joined: 05 Apr 2008 Posts: 4788 Location: worcestershire
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Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2011 9:42 am Post subject: |
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brian wrote: |
I know it's unwise to assume (especially when it comes to Bimota!)... however, would i be correct in assuming that the frames of the SB6, SB6R and SB7 are all identical? Even though the 6R's have they're own number sequence. |
Very unwise to assume
No, the 6 and 6R frames are not the same.
Never directly compared them but I have a 6 and 6R stood next to each other at the moment and can see half a dozen SMALL differences.
I've always wanted to try my spare 6 bodywork on the 6R but hey, where am I going to find the time for that? |
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MARTIN
Joined: 09 Dec 2009 Posts: 226 Location: ABERDEEN SCOTLAND
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Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2011 10:12 am Post subject: |
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To add more weight to the discussion,consider the following:
Only using the SB6 (not the R) model ,my research (open to others that may know) shown that there was 3 series produced of the SB6, main difference was colour (original, if you have a different colour, frame number-lower or higher may be only reference)
Series 1 WHITE,RED AND CARBON "SB6"LEGEND WAS RED & CARBON
Series 2 DARK GREY AND RED "SB6"LEGEND IN WHITE
Series 3 DARK GREY ONLY "SB6" LEGEND IN WHITE
My research also showed that
SERIES 1 NUMBER PRODUCED 790
SERIES 2 NUMBER PRODUCED 332
SERIES 3 NUMBER PRUDUCED 22 = 1144
I think that number for series 2 & 3 ,due to what may have transpired when factory closed and outlay of materials was being attempted to recoup, may be more.
So let see if this works
Frame numbers 0- 790 original colour series 1 ?
frame numbers 791 -1122 (?) original colour series 2 ?
frame numbers 1123- 1144 (??) original colour series 3 ?
Interested to see response _________________ Marty
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Bimsb6
Joined: 15 Oct 2011 Posts: 149 Location: Bedfordshire
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Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2011 10:22 am Post subject: |
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So how does my series 2 frame number 1261 fit in ? |
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oily
Joined: 05 Apr 2008 Posts: 4788 Location: worcestershire
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Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2011 10:22 am Post subject: |
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Ok, Very interesting Martin but we are talking Bimota here so earth logic does not apply.
Going on the colours.......
I have a series one and a series two
My series one has a frame number...1230
and my series two has a frame number of...1248
but to be fair to your research, I think my series one And my series two, may both be series four (non of the above ) built after the factory closed
Keep up the research Marty
I'll mention again....Should we attempt our own register? |
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oily
Joined: 05 Apr 2008 Posts: 4788 Location: worcestershire
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Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2011 10:24 am Post subject: |
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Bimsb6 wrote: |
So how does my series 2 frame number 1261 fit in ? |
Series Four?? |
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MARTIN
Joined: 09 Dec 2009 Posts: 226 Location: ABERDEEN SCOTLAND
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Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2011 12:05 pm Post subject: |
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I would theorise (which is hard on a Saturday morning ) that
as I put question marks beside series 2 & 3 , when factory closed
there was a bunch of frames (various numbers) and farings ( series 2 & 3 and a couple of series 1 apparently )
there were put together to give complete bikes. ( series 4 )
Assumptions being made are
Frames were same ( just needed stamp number)
farings were same ( just different colours)
engines were same ( does anybody know of differences)
rest of rolling chassis same ( forks, wheels,swing arm shocks,etc)
electrics were same
I stand to be enlightened ( must be some kind of religious thing or the water up here ) _________________ Marty
State of the art and leading edge of cocking things up
(00) SB6 (95) HD FXDWG STRETCH (01)GSXR1000K1 |
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oily
Joined: 05 Apr 2008 Posts: 4788 Location: worcestershire
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Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2011 12:19 pm Post subject: |
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Marty, Marty, Marty...............
As long as your theory's stay as theory's then I'm tending to agree with you but we're back to the 4th dimension....Bimota logic
We have now created a series 4 and we haven't yet sorted out 1,2 and 3
When (if) we could sort out the series 1,2 and 3 we would then need to sort out the sub categories of series 1 such as early and late models with all the changes made therein.
I fear this thread is going to amuse us for some time to come and the only way to sort it out is for a sb6 register |
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Bimsb6
Joined: 15 Oct 2011 Posts: 149 Location: Bedfordshire
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Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2011 12:23 pm Post subject: |
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I'm in the depths of my memory i recall early and later frames being different ,something to do with engine mountings and vibration on the early models? |
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oily
Joined: 05 Apr 2008 Posts: 4788 Location: worcestershire
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Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2011 12:26 pm Post subject: |
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Bimsb6 wrote: |
I'm in the depths of my memory i recall early and later frames being different ,something to do with engine mountings and vibration on the early models? |
Yes, one of quite a few changes as Bimota used it's customers to conduct all it's R & D |
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