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SB6 cams... is it so?
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brian



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2012 3:45 am    Post subject: SB6 cams... is it so? Reply with quote

2 questions -

1 - I've read in more than one article that Bimota fitted their own (or at least not standard) cams to the SB6. Does anybody know if this is true?

2 - How much power did the SB6 produce compared to the stock GSXR1100's 156 hp (137.8 rear wheel hp)?
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Pompey



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2012 3:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think we covered this on a thread a few years back? From what I remember the cams were exactly the same for the 6 and the gixxer... but then who know if every 6 was built the same way? If you do get different ones my bet would be the early ones got the improvement and the later ones stayed stock to save money.
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brian



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2012 4:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did a search and didn't really find a lot about cams. I did re-read evil's engine out thread though (marathon). Lots of really interesting info in that thread.

Cheers
Brian
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oily



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2012 5:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pompey seems to have the SB6 cams covered Wink

Standard Suzuki cams. All as per Suzuki's workshop manual.

Sb6 produced high 130bhp at the back wheel but coupled with a stiff frame and light weight, the power to weight ratio was exeptional Wink
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2012 5:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

unless you plan on being on a drag strip then most money spent on increased bhp is pointless. Better to spend it on handling improvements and burning fuel practicing technique.
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oily



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2012 5:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rubbish Laughing

You can never have too much power.......
It's more addictive than crack Laughing
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2012 6:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Was that hitler quote?
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2012 6:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anyway, why are you up so early Oily or are there trains crashing everywhere ?Wink
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2012 6:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nah......
a flipant oily quote Wink
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2012 12:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pompey wrote:
Anyway, why are you up so early Oily or are there trains crashing everywhere ?Wink


Not up early.......up late Wink
working nights this week which of course gives me plenty of time in the garage during the day Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2012 4:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

how long did it take you to work out how to draw that picture of Em on the avatar?
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2012 4:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pompey wrote:
how long did it take you to work out how to draw that picture of Em on the avatar?


A dam site quicker than it would have taken you Laughing
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2012 6:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I reckon the SB6 did mid to late 120's at the back wheel. More power seems to come with the air box, the SB6R is a bit more meaty because it breathes better.

Really I'd say the engine will cost you relatively big bucks and the quick gains can be made in light wheels, especially if you have the Antera's on.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 5:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The GSXR received new cams in 1995 that supposedly boosted the midrange 10%. My guess is that the SB6 had these a year earlier.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 5:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They're the same profile as the 750W the lobes are slightly different centres so the valves are quite in the middle but they'll still work.
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