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daotoys1
Joined: 29 Feb 2008 Posts: 202
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Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2013 7:13 pm Post subject: Interested in getting a V Due....Questions? |
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Happy New Year to every one.
I have considered getting a V Due. Can I get some feedback from owners/riders?
My first concern is reliability. How reliable are the V Due? I understand that the bikes that have been completely upgraded and sorted are fairly reliable. Is this true?
If I get one, it would be to use and ride in the Rocky Mountain paved canyons where I live. But Im not interested in getting stranded should the bike fail or break on me a long way from home, and up in the mountains where help can be a long way away.
Also, what variation of the V Due would be recommended for street use ( Canyon carving actually)?
thanks for any help.
Doug
P.S....Im in the USA.
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vort28
Joined: 22 Mar 2010 Posts: 2194 Location: Northwest , UK
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Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 2:36 pm Post subject: |
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Back in 1997 I had one of the first injection vdues delivered to the UK , did'nt even remove it from the dealers, took it down the road for a ride and then straight back for my money. BUT there has always been part of me that wished I had'nt .
I was always concerned about the reliability after my first experience, but BimotaNige convinced me otherwise . He has done a fair few miles on his carb one and other than a oil pump issue leading to a damaged piston I think thats about all he's had, but best speak to him on that.
2012 saw a nice brand new carb corse spec engined 125bhp vdue with jollymoto exhaust arrive in my garage .
The first thing I noticed when getting it out of the van was how small it is , and how light it is, OH , and how drop dead gorgeous it still looks .
I did the general once over that you would do with any bike , and there was a few issues, but nothing to major, then it was the extra bolt through the engine casings , a few fuel/oil checks and a prod of the starter. 2bim's was present at the delivery of mine and he said he thought my face was going to fall off I was smiling that much . The noise is just to die for !!
Have only ever experienced 250cc 2 strokes about 20 yrs ago, and was a bit concerned on my first ride, but even running the motor in , this is like nothing I have ever experienced. From 0-2500rpm I would say it feels like a 400cc 4 stroke , 2500-4000rpm it is sort of like a 600cc 4 stroke in the wrong gear, 4-6000rpm it is 600 4 stroke but still a bit bogged down and not in the power band, but when I have hit 6000rpm , and remember I am trying to stay below this to run her in , OMG , Hold on , weight forward , and grab another gear !!!! Caught wait to do the final few run in miles, and then get the oil set up right .
The other thing to note, and this is from a man with other Bimota's, this thing is small , bloody small , and your legs are tucked up quite a far way. But the seat is more comfortable than it looks. Oh and if its new or unridden the suspension will be all over the place.
If you have the cash, the spare space in the garage, and a basic knowledge of keeping things going , you OWE it to yourself to buy a vdue |
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2bims
Joined: 03 Apr 2010 Posts: 7289
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Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 5:40 pm Post subject: |
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If you are interested Daotoys, and Vorts OK with it, I could upload a video of the momentous occassion when they were temporaily offloaded at his parents house, just so the "other half" didn't turn up un-announced, not just the delights of a nice rattly zingey smokey 500 v-due running, but more of Vort caught on camera smiling, and thats not happened since his wedding night (video available on pay=per view only, only 1c per hour though )
It may be his smiling was a combination of a sunny day, or that 2 new bims came on the same day, perhaps it was that they both started, eventually, but methinks it was the v-due that created the occassion. Does need the Jolly moto pipes on them though for the full 2-stroke effect of sound and vision... |
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bimotanige
Joined: 12 Jul 2010 Posts: 582 Location: yorkshire
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Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 10:03 am Post subject: |
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Had my Vdue corsa about 6 years from new now and done about 7000 miles. Once the initial setup was done the only problem I have had is a starter sprag clutch bearing that failed. The part looks like it comes from a washing machine and costs €12 from memory!! I put the JM pipes on as the Corsa ones are too loud for the road.The bike has done 3 TT's on the Isle of Man with no trouble. Front suspension is very soft but I had some rising rate stiffened springs made and it sorted it out. Riding position is fine - your backside will never be in the seat and knees never off the ground. I'll book my place for canyon carving!!! ps you will need a fuel dump if you plan on doing more than 60 - 70 miles though _________________ KB1x2, SB3 SB4 BB1 DB2 Vdue Evo YB11 RB1 Ducati MHR Suzi GS650 |
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vort28
Joined: 22 Mar 2010 Posts: 2194 Location: Northwest , UK
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Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 12:59 pm Post subject: |
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Have decided to save the sprag housing and do GP bump starts, much more fun and get you into the spirit of riding a 500cc 2-stroke |
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bimotanige
Joined: 12 Jul 2010 Posts: 582 Location: yorkshire
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Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 4:22 pm Post subject: |
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Vort, hope you have taken the old one out and flushed it all as the broken bits share the same oil as the gearbox. Feet crunching on the snow will not be the only crunching you will get!! _________________ KB1x2, SB3 SB4 BB1 DB2 Vdue Evo YB11 RB1 Ducati MHR Suzi GS650 |
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husson73
Joined: 31 Jul 2010 Posts: 188 Location: Paris FRANCE
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Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 12:25 pm Post subject: |
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am V due (modified indirect injection) owner and driver, would say the bike is reliable but I fouled plugs on town like on my 69 Kawasaki H1 points model on the 70s. Too much petrol at low and middle range and of course one of the plug, the upper is a nightmare to change.
On an other hand, isn't a part of the fun
Of course before using the bike make all the verifications, didn't do and seized cause one of the oil tube was blocked by the lower fairing and was cut by it
am a two stroker man and must say I prefer muy Kawa triples or my RG 500 (am first owner from new) |
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husson73
Joined: 31 Jul 2010 Posts: 188 Location: Paris FRANCE
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Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 2:30 pm Post subject: |
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should add the V due works very welll from 7000 to 10.500 RPM (not always easy to drive at this rpm on open roads) and the position is rather strange and very similar to a 69 H1 kawasaki with clipons excepted the V due seat is higher.
The petrol range is also very close to a H1 around 110 120 kilometers before refueling, ride always with 2 liters of petrol with me just in case (Kawasaki triples rules) |
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morebhp
Joined: 02 May 2012 Posts: 302 Location: Marbella, Spain
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Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 3:17 pm Post subject: |
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Lets have some photos - you can never have to many 2 stroke pics
I had the RG500 and H2 also, as well as RD500 and a 'proper' TZ250
Too much fun! _________________ Now - SB6R, GSX1400, KTM 990 SuperDuke
Then - H2A Trip, GSX1000R , EXC400, TZ250, R1, TL1000S, 1100 Kat, RG500, RD500, GPZ 900R GPZ1100 UniT, GSX1100, Z650
It was like that when I got here |
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husson73
Joined: 31 Jul 2010 Posts: 188 Location: Paris FRANCE
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Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 4:03 pm Post subject: |
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H2B Paris 18 january 2013 8pm
same 40th H2 anniversary Dijon track may 2012
the same in other colors Coupes Moto Legende 2005 with my RG 500
my H2A and my H2B KTC UK Southern rally 2012
my H2A KTC UK Northern rally 2011
my H2a Kawasaki triple club from Norway 2007 rally
my 69 H1 KTC UK Southern rally 2011
my 69 H1 40th yeras H1 anniversary Carole track near Paris
my 69 H1 H2 club Deutschland 2009 Treffen
KTC UK Southern rally 2009, (the Bim, H2a, S2A and 69 H1 were mine (borrowed by norge friends)
spare engine
spare frame
french triples my H2A, H2B, 69 H1 and others Spa Classic 2012 H2 40 years anniversary
my S2A Southern rally 2009
some others bikes
V due
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morebhp
Joined: 02 May 2012 Posts: 302 Location: Marbella, Spain
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Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 7:50 am Post subject: |
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Very nice set of photos - probably saw your bike at Spa when I was there last year with Gary and Ian.
Sorry if we have hijacked the thread a little but some great two stroke pics and a Vdue in there too! _________________ Now - SB6R, GSX1400, KTM 990 SuperDuke
Then - H2A Trip, GSX1000R , EXC400, TZ250, R1, TL1000S, 1100 Kat, RG500, RD500, GPZ 900R GPZ1100 UniT, GSX1100, Z650
It was like that when I got here |
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2bims
Joined: 03 Apr 2010 Posts: 7289
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Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 10:39 am Post subject: |
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Some of my old bikes in there also, so always nice to see, and it ended with a BImota so not an issue here. Didn't realise they did an RD125 like that, had the old RD400E, oh happy days, wrapped the glass fuses in KitKat foil whenever they went bang and I lost the lights, ignition, you name it, and to think I moan about Italian electrics nowadays |
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GeeKay
Joined: 29 May 2009 Posts: 1767 Location: West Yorkshire
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Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 11:18 am Post subject: |
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wonderful pictures Jean-Pierre. Thankyou for sharing them with us.
Are you going to Spa again this year? _________________ Bimota SB6 and Benelli TNT 899S road bikes.
Beta Techno trials iron. Project bikes:- Suzuki V4 500, TS185 cafe racer, XR11/71, Kettle/Katana, TDRGV250, OR50, Gag125,Triumph T595 and a Triumph X75 Hurricane replica.
Too many projects............... |
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husson73
Joined: 31 Jul 2010 Posts: 188 Location: Paris FRANCE
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Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 12:21 pm Post subject: |
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we didn't hijacked the thread, there're two bims on it.
Funny thing that on 2009 when some norges members of KTC of Norway came by plane to Paris to go with the frogs on the Southern rally, they were supposed to be two and I had enough triples on the road for the two and myself, then a third one said I came and I said to them, so cause you're my guests I would take my SB6 as you are now 3 and so you would ride my 3 K triples which worked.
But the third norge said I will be please to ride the Bim and so we did.
He enjoyed the bike (and the trip) and since is thinking about to buy one.
BTW the president of the KTC of Norway owns a KB1.
Gary am afraid I will not come to Spa on 2013 as usally it's at the same dates as the KTC UK Northern rally.
2012 was special, we have a vote on the club (am member) to cancel Northern rally 2012 to go at Spa classic 40th years H2 anniversary.
forgot to put a picture of my 1971 H2 H2F 0026* 09/1971 am actually rebuilt...
and of my basket case H1 with martin frame with a title Martin original (15 frames made only two with the right title, didn't matter to ride on the 70s with a Kawasaki title with a special frame but now the things have changed...)
Daotoys1 have you read this post?
http://www.bimotaforum.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=852 |
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morebhp
Joined: 02 May 2012 Posts: 302 Location: Marbella, Spain
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Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 2:01 pm Post subject: |
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Very impressive shadows on the 4th photo - sure it was the UK _________________ Now - SB6R, GSX1400, KTM 990 SuperDuke
Then - H2A Trip, GSX1000R , EXC400, TZ250, R1, TL1000S, 1100 Kat, RG500, RD500, GPZ 900R GPZ1100 UniT, GSX1100, Z650
It was like that when I got here |
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