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DB5R- wet or dry?

 
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SpikeC



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 06, 2014 6:39 pm    Post subject: DB5R- wet or dry? Reply with quote

Most of the pictures that I have seen of the DB5R have dry clutches, butt mine has a wet clutch. Does anyone know what the deal with this is?
I was under the impression that they used the Ducati Multistrada engine in these bikes, and it has a wet clutch. Did they just use whatever engine Ducati had a few extras of laying about? Like maybe M1100 Monster engines?
Or did Bimota spec the clutch, but wasn't to picky about what they received?
Inquiring mind wants to know! (BTW, I love the wet slipper clutch, it's quiet, smooth and works great)
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 06, 2014 9:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

they used for the first part of DB5 production the 1000DS engine came from Multistrada.
When they passed on 1100DS they used the engine came from, as you wrote, Multistrada again.
Before Ducati EVO engine the passed to use the 1100DS of Hypermotard, so the return with the dry clutch.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 06, 2014 11:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, so the 1k used dry, the first 11 used wet, then they switched back to the dry.
I guess I have a rare collectible then!

Butt why a dry clutch would be desirable is beyond me......
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 07, 2014 7:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

SpikeC wrote:
Ok, so the 1k used dry, the first 11 used wet, then they switched back to the dry.
I guess I have a rare collectible then!

Butt why a dry clutch would be desirable is beyond me......


We are italian, we like sounds, noise, ecc... Very Happy The Ducati fan like to hear cling cling of the dry clutch Very Happy
Ducati ran for over 20 years with dry clutch, so have it the bike will be like more close to a race replica bike.
In my opinion I like the dry clutch, for the noise, for see it twist, for fast time during the change and so on. Yes, I kwon it is more strong, it will last less
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 07, 2014 9:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As Spidermann says........they went to the 1100 cc motor (1079) when the cats were introduced for emissions.....and yes...its whatever engines Ducati had to sell to them in effect..........True that the wet clutches are smoother and quieter...and yes...Ducati fans like the rattly dry clutches...Only advantage really is they are easier to change the plates as evidently no need to drop the oil.....so servicing is easier......The last DB5R engines were from the Ducati hypermotard version with the magnesium engine casings.......
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 09, 2014 4:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dry clutches have also less power loss than wet ones (less resistance...). Well it used to be like that...
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 11:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dry clutch;

Less weight ( less oil, enclosed case cover not needed )

Better cooling ( air vs oil cooled )

Faster / easier access for service and or inspection

less friction ( not bathed in oil / viscous = friction)

More power ( less loss of HP / to move through the oil )

No oil contamination ( unless the wet clutch has separate oil bath ....most share the same oil for clutch, trans and engine )

"looks " race

"sounds" race ( and makes more noise than wet )

Traditional ( for race ap )

The wet clutches have their own + / - too.....

I did a wet to dry clutch conversion on my Tesi 3D LE Smile Me like Smile

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 21, 2014 9:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can't put a trick CF carbon cover on a wet clutch as I found out with my DB9.

Oil went everywhere. Very Happy Very Happy
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 21, 2014 9:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just kidding.Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 21, 2014 3:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hiya Spike - youve been a bundle of knowledge and helped me out with some queries I had on my DB5R - but soory - mines got a dry clutch so cant really answer you on the wet issue ..........is wierd though ?
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 21, 2014 7:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The deal is that the original DB5R had the motor from the Multistrada, with a wet clutch, and the later ones used the motor from the Hypermotard, which had a dry clutch.
Now we all know a little more about these beasts!
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 3:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hiya - Any idea of the going price of 2010 DB5R up there - we are fairly isolated down here at the arse end of the world.....the guys here in SA wont pay what they do in europe or the states .youve seen pics of my bike,only 3700 km on the odometer and not a scratch on her anywhere,oz wheels ,zard pipes,Ohlinspaperwork all in order etc............any thoughts? many thanks
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 23, 2014 4:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hi all ,,,,,,,,,,,,anyone able to decipher bimota serial numbers ..........heres mine for my DB5R.......I think the 08 is for the year of frame,and perhaps the last few digits - indictates which number off the line...15 out of 28 as I believe that only that number or thereabouts were made.anyone ,spike ?

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 23, 2014 4:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bimota zesdb051r8r00015 - heres the number
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