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SB6 Frame polishing or plating??? and modification questions
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rpo83



Joined: 28 Oct 2008
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Location: Melbourne, Australia

PostPosted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 2:59 am    Post subject: SB6 Frame polishing or plating??? and modification questions Reply with quote

Howdy all,

My bike has developed a weeping oil leak under the bottom of the chain, it looks like it is either the countershaft sprocket OR the WD40 i sprayed my chain with before the last ride has penetrated the o-rings and the grease has wept. I haven't had the time or space to look deeper at the moment.

If it is the countershaft sprocket, i am thinking that if i need to drop the engine, i may as well make it worth my while.

Can anyone give feedback about what is the better option of either polishing or plating the frame/swingarm.

I am a little gun shy of polishing after seeing the amount of material that was removed from my wheels when they were polished.

I have heard nickel plating is fantastic, anyone have experience thoughts?

What other mods should i consider if i end up doing this? I believe the bike is 100% stock. Whenever it rains (rarely) the bike sometimes drops a cylinder, and i have heard the coils are crap, is this true.

What is the altenator mod that i hear about???

The choke cable broke and i replaced it with a standard GSXR WP cable, only to find that the switchblock is not a GSXR! It is a CBR switchblock WTF!! I assume a stock CBR choke cable isn't suitable, so i am considering buying a GSXR switchblock and converting the plug to suit the Bimota harness, anyone had similar problems and found a solution (other than ordering a standard cable from Bimota)?

Cheers

Steve
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oily



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 9:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Steve, could your leak be hydraulic fluid from the clutch slave cylinder? Common problem with these.

I had a Nickel plated frame, years ago, on a Suzuki Beamish trials bike.
A bit more of the plating peeled off every time I draged it out of the shed Laughing
Why not polish the frame yourself?
Just use wet 'n' dry paper to take the anodising off and then plenty of elbow power. Shouldent be removing any metal that way but it's a job you'll wish you hadent started Wink
Could always have it re anodised. I've seen one that's been powder coated and it wasen't good
Laughing

Yes, Suzuki coils are crap. Swap em for a set of Dyna coils.

I, for one, diden't know the switchblock was cbr Shocked
How do you know the cbr cable won't fit.
Cables are easy to make or have made as long as you've got the old one as a pattern, easy peasy Wink

How's that for a start, first thing in the morning Laughing

I'll be answering your PM shortly, Look's like your planning a big makeover for your poor little Bim Wink
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 10:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the blearey eyed reply..



oily wrote:
Steve, could your leak be hydraulic fluid from the clutch slave cylinder? Common problem with these. I'll have a good look around the bike ASAP

I had a Nickel plated frame, years ago, on a Suzuki Beamish trials bike.
A bit more of the plating peeled off every time I draged it out of the shed Laughing Doesn't sound good!
Why not polish the frame yourself? I'm a lazy bastard, and no space
Just use wet 'n' dry paper to take the anodising off and then plenty of elbow power. Shouldent be removing any metal that way but it's a job you'll wish you hadent started Wink
Could always have it re anodised. I've seen one that's been powder coated and it wasen't goodPowder coating doesn't appeal, but a mate of mine gets some very high end anodizing on a turntable he makes, it is appealing..
Laughing

Yes, Suzuki coils are crap. Swap em for a set of Dyna coils. Thanks

I, for one, diden't know the switchblock was cbr Shocked Either did i untill i went trawling around a wrecker, and he identified it,,
How do you know the cbr cable won't fit.I don't, anyone tried one??
Cables are easy to make or have made as long as you've got the old one as a pattern, easy peasy Wink

How's that for a start, first thing in the morning Laughing Thanks very much.

I'll be answering your PM shortly, Look's like your planning a big makeover for your poor little Bim Wink Just thinking out loud at the moment, if the oil leak ends up being easily fixed, i'll just keep riding her..


Cheers

Steve
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 8:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I do a lot of polishing and for frames and swing arms that have been anodised i normaly use a chemical bath to remove the plating so no removel of metal . with wheels normaly being sand cast you do have to remove a bit of the surface metal .
R1's are the best as the frame is 70% finished its just the lower part is the pain if the customer wants it all blending in to the frame rails .
if you want your swing arm polished send me a picture of it and i will give you a price .
I dont do polishing for customers anymore as it is a filthy job but i still have all the equipment , it takes me ages to get clean after i finish but i do do it for mates , i try not to do frames anymore as i does my back in but im allways up for a chalange.
the most common parts i do are fork legs , and engine cases normaly after a bad winter Laughing
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 9:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just a note on plating , Alloy plating is very hard to get right so you will need to find a very good plater with a track record of alloy plating . Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 10:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

madasfook wrote:
I do a lot of polishing and for frames and swing arms that have been anodised i normaly use a chemical bath to remove the plating so no removel of metal . with wheels normaly being sand cast you do have to remove a bit of the surface metal .
R1's are the best as the frame is 70% finished its just the lower part is the pain if the customer wants it all blending in to the frame rails .
if you want your swing arm polished send me a picture of it and i will give you a price .
I dont do polishing for customers anymore as it is a filthy job but i still have all the equipment , it takes me ages to get clean after i finish but i do do it for mates , i try not to do frames anymore as i does my back in but im allways up for a chalange.
the most common parts i do are fork legs , and engine cases normaly after a bad winter Laughing


Love to take you up on the offer, but i think the cost of shipping back and forth to Australia may kill the idea...

At this point, anodising would probably be my preferred option.

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Steve
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 11:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Considering it's anodised already, would you be going for a colour change?
Most colours would go with black but what would be tasteful Laughing
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 2:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My choice would be to go for a matt black finish for frame and swing arm to give it a gp look ... Laughing
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 2:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Black frame, black swing arm
black bodywork
Shocked
It's all gonna look ...well...a bit black
Like a stealth bike Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 12:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Got to agree woth oily,

It would be too black...

I did consider gold to match the forks, but it would look to much like a cheap dress watch if you know what i mean.

The blues and reds available look great, but i just couldn't do it.

I really would like a polished frame, there are many SB6's out there with polished frames and they look great, so maybe a glossy silver anodising Very Happy

Update on the oil drip, it isn't the slave cylinder as the res is still full Very Happy

I am pretty sure it is the remnats of WD40 getting past the o-rings and breaking down the grease. I don't know what made me spray it on the chain Embarassed I know the stuff is a penatrant.

Steve
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 7:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Glossy silver anodising Shocked
Is there such a thing steve?
I've had many sleepless nights ( Laughing ) thinking about this and the only way to go, with your black fairing is..................
Polished frame rails Wink
Anything else is going to make it look like a two wheeled circus Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 9:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

oily wrote:
Glossy silver anodising Shocked
Is there such a thing steve? I have no idea, sounds interesting though
I've had many sleepless nights ( Laughing ) thinking about this and the only way to go, with your black fairing is..................I could always repaint the fairing whilst i'm at it, what do you think about YELLOW Twisted Evil
Polished frame rails Wink I know you are correct
Anything else is going to make it look like a two wheeled circus Laughing or ZXR/CBR/GSXR Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 9:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paint it yellow and then a black frame would look good Laughing Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 10:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have gotta find something better to do with my time.
Anyone looking for inspiration check out the following

http://www.bimotaspirit.com Cool
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 21, 2010 11:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

Black anodised frame would look good and should be tough.

Personally not keen on polished alloy frames.

All the best

Keith
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