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2bims
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stockcar
Joined: 07 Apr 2011 Posts: 836 Location: in the shadow of the "angel"
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Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2017 6:16 pm Post subject: |
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Been up a few times but not met his reserve |
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birubhai
Joined: 04 Mar 2017 Posts: 6 Location: Ashtead, UK
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Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2017 12:09 pm Post subject: |
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Hi Guys, I met the ebay bike seller yesterday. I don't know anything about Bimotas but it seems I will be buying one in next 10 days, hopefully. There is a low mileage bike being sold in Lincoln for 8K. I am contemplating making an offer for the low mileage SB6R, but also trying to get some maths for the ebay vs nearly new bike. Any help on offer price please if the Bike shop is saying they would recommission the bike and they are Ducati dealers so trust they would service/set-up bike right.
I am based in Ashtead, Surrey. Zero mechanical /workshop skills. So if anything were to go wrong either Jordan Racing or PDQ. Previous bikes (RD350 - India), 5 BMWs R, ST, RS, K1200S. Last bike was Capanord 1200. Never rode clip on fast bike in my life. Impulse is good thing, i just need to know my riding limits and learn.
Many thanks for all your help.
Hope to see you guys at some point if the buying matures into my ride. I did make a list of things that generally go wrong on SB6R (super thanks to all folks on here).
Many thanks again
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Jonny B Bad
Joined: 05 Dec 2009 Posts: 555 Location: NE London
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Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2017 1:25 pm Post subject: SB6R |
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Good luck with your bidding. In common with all Bimotas, the 6R has some issues, but once sorted, it's a reliable bike - I commute on mine, amongst other riding. Having said that, some of it's a bit unconventional - e.g. seat unit and mufflers are removed as one unit, so it's worth identifying a firm that has either worked on that model of Bimota before, or is willing to learn.
A few bits are a real trial, e.g. they sleeved the clutch slave cylinder to match it up to the brembo master cylinders which were their preferred option at the time. Nobody seems to know what the smaller piston they used was off. So when the piston seal goes, you end up replacing the whole slave cylinder, with an original GSXR 1100 item (£90), which the brembo master cylinder is too weedy to actuate. So you need a larger bore master (£200 +) and then both items have got to be fitted. If you're not mechanically inclined. You could easily end up spending £500, for the failure of a £10 seal - ouch.
Having said all that, if you put the lad on a diet, by junking the heavy wheels and end-cans, it's a lovely bike and still puts a smile on my face every time I get on it! _________________ What, Jonny's gone! |
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birubhai
Joined: 04 Mar 2017 Posts: 6 Location: Ashtead, UK
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Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2017 2:05 pm Post subject: |
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Hi, many thanks for the reply. Parts and consumables, adds to the charm of owning. I won't be bidding on the bike if the auction seems rigged. I am thinking of putting an offer for Italia Moto bike, which is in Lincoln.
I trust the Garage guys would be aware of these issues and sort these in recommission process. I will wait for some numbers from forum members re advise on price to pay for low mileage SB6R, bike advertised at 8k.
Thanks again for help and advise. |
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Jonny B Bad
Joined: 05 Dec 2009 Posts: 555 Location: NE London
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Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2017 3:31 pm Post subject: SB6R |
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You can contrast an £8k asking price with a number of different benchmarks - an original retail price of £16k, although many were ultimately sold at less than that - there's a NOS seat unit on the bay at £1900. Ultimately, they are relatively rare, so there is not the depth of market to give you the reassurance that you are not paying over the odds for any particular machine.
£8k is certainly not out of the ball park, if it is in good condition and it is something you really want. Let's face it, people pay a great deal more for complete rust-buckets which have acquired the sort of rarity value that Bimota's of the 6r vintage have yet to find, but may well do, given time and the low production levels. _________________ What, Jonny's gone! |
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vort28
Joined: 22 Mar 2010 Posts: 2194 Location: Northwest , UK
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Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2017 5:51 pm Post subject: |
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I would'nt assume any garage knows Bimota's very well , they are a pretty rare bike in any form, but as far as a 6R goes , probably one of the more reliable ones , other then the clocks and the clutch.
From a purchase point of view, they are worth what you are willing to pay, 8k should be a good one.
Most cycle parts are common with something except the body work, and as previously mentioned , this can be mega bucks.
My advise if you want a Bimota is buy the best you can afford and check panels and Bimota specific parts.
You may find cheaper examples with the odd damage or missing part , but some parts are unobtainable or you just have to accept the outrageous price of buying from dealers in Italy !!!! |
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stockcar
Joined: 07 Apr 2011 Posts: 836 Location: in the shadow of the "angel"
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Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2017 8:32 pm Post subject: |
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6R is very reliable IME albeit mine hasn't seen daylight (stuck under its dust cover) for a few years as too little time and too many other project bikes in the way
I have managed to acquire various spares over the years but touch wood the clocks, etc. all continue to work as intended |
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Evilchicken0
Joined: 12 May 2010 Posts: 2996 Location: London
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Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2017 10:50 pm Post subject: |
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If you have no mechanical knowledge I'd suggest you go to a bike maintenancy corse at a local Tech College. You might not ever use a spanner but you'll nave a better idea of the difficulties.
Check the chain adjusters ... If they're a long way back look at the sproket teeth - if they're worn then you should know that changing the front sprocket is a BIG JOB and expensive if a garage do it. _________________ Don't read everything you believe |
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birubhai
Joined: 04 Mar 2017 Posts: 6 Location: Ashtead, UK
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Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 9:15 am Post subject: |
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Hi, many thanks everyone for all the help. Will be back with a red ride soon. Yes, seems sprocket change is big, will keep it on mind. Have seen many with fork preload adjusters does it help?
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Jonny B Bad
Joined: 05 Dec 2009 Posts: 555 Location: NE London
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Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 10:48 am Post subject: SB6R |
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The thing with the front sprocket is that you've had to deconstruct the bike to such an extent to get at it, that you might as well do the other job which requires this level of stripdown, namely the valve clearances, whether or not you've hit the 7,500 miles interval. _________________ What, Jonny's gone! |
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2bims
Joined: 03 Apr 2010 Posts: 7289
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Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 11:07 am Post subject: |
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birubhai wrote: |
Hi, many thanks everyone for all the help. Will be back with a red ride soon. Yes, seems sprocket change is big, will keep it on mind. Have seen many with fork preload adjusters does it help?
Best
babr |
It was a "factory" option to fit Paioli adjusters to the tops....as with any suspension....a good set up by someone who knows what they are doing is always best....Rears fine....Ohlins multi adjustable, preload, compression and rebound and ride height adjuster also... |
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Evilchicken0
Joined: 12 May 2010 Posts: 2996 Location: London
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Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 1:11 pm Post subject: |
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It was an option on the SB6 but it was standard on the SB6R.
As said, get it set up by a suspension specialist, it's worth every penny _________________ Don't read everything you believe |
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Spongebob
Joined: 03 May 2016 Posts: 144 Location: Oxfordshire
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Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 1:28 pm Post subject: |
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just chipping in with my 2 cents worth. I bought an SB6R a year ago. UK bike with speedo in mph and 1 owner from new. Paid just over £6k for it.
I used it all last year to commute on plus a few road trips. Initially it had issues with the speedo under reading but continued use seemed to sort that out. It also left me stranded in Henley one day last summer. It was very, very hot so fuel evaporation was suspected as it did restart once fully cooled off. Other than that it's proved reliable, fast and fun.
If you can check the exhaust under the seat. Mine was cracked where the single pipe splits back out to 2. Apparently carries a high level of stress. Simple fix by any decent welder.
This winter I bit the bullet and invested in a custom made exhaust system which is less than half the weight of the OEM system. I also have ordered a set of Dymag carbon wheels. The bike is currently at PDQ in Taplow. They have done a dyno set up on the bike with the new exhaust and are also fitting the wheels etc. Should have been back by now but Brembo cocked up the new discs and sent an odd pair so Larry's had to reorder which is taking for ever as no stock. Hopefully it will be all done early April. I also bought a set of carbon fairing lowers off eBay as originals are prone to cracking. They are an exact copy and fit really well. PDQ do seem to know their way around Bimotas and are a really friendly bunch. Always lots of interesting bikes in there too!
All in I've probably spent nearly £10k on mine to get it where it is but compare that to a new R1 or Fireblade etc then i think I have value.
Might even be tempted to get another if this years bonus will stretch.... |
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2bims
Joined: 03 Apr 2010 Posts: 7289
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Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 3:02 pm Post subject: |
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Evilchicken0 wrote: |
It was an option on the SB6 but it was standard on the SB6R.
As said, get it set up by a suspension specialist, it's worth every penny |
I stand...or rather "sit" corrected....SB6 not really my bag...but heck...get to ride one one day and my mind may be changed....Off out for a "hoot" on latest delivery this morning...still on French plates...now MOT'd and insured..."-stroke fury...bring it ON...!! |
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