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Evilchicken0



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 5:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's more than a soap opera now ..... I just want to get it ridable.

Although I've got a Dyna 2000 CDI for it, I'll change the batteries for a single race type one, then look at the way the architecture of the lights fits. I'll 38mm carbs too - the idea is the airbox being small restricts high revs where the 40's have an advantage, 38's might produce more torque.
Oh and sort the paint out - I'm looking for a spraying course at college or someplace that will let me have a go with a compressor gun then I can do it myself.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 7:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did your man get any pictures with the head orf ?
How did the piston get on with that valve head rattling around in there?
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 2:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

He's going to send me some pics but he's not so hot with computers.
I'd be surprised if that piston isn't marked but he did check the rest and said they were fine.

I don't think tunning the engine was the problem, if you see what I mean, it was the build. I reckon when it's done properly it should be fine.
I'll stick with standard valves and springs, but obviously I'll need a cam follower ... !!!
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 5:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Evilchicken0 wrote:

I don't think tunning the engine was the problem, if you see what I mean, it was the build.


Sure it was the same with mine.............it was built by a monkey
And then he let it stand with water in two of the bores Crying or Very sad
If the two bores can't be honed and stay in tolerence.........
New pots will be required Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 10:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Unfortuately your engine has received quite a bit of damage to piston 1. I may be able to salvage it, I will see if it will clean up tomorrow. Both cams are unsalvageable, although I spoke to Joy Cams and he told me the standard cams are pretty hot so can use them. All the rings are shot the bore has been too coarse or too much fuel washing oil off the rings.


Today I am .... less than optimum.

How's yours going oily
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 12:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Better than yours because I'm still waiting for the verdict on the barrels.
At least I know my pistons are OK Wink
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 03, 2011 6:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Now heard from my man. Good news all the way. My barrels have been honed and they are still well in spec because the chimp that bored them out originally had bored them under size.
They've had a couple of thou decked off the top too just to make sure they are flat.
Going to get a thou or so skimmed off the head just to make sure Wink

Sorry dude if this sounds like "pain and pleasure" but it seems your bad luck is bringing me good luck (or have I spoken too soon) so.........Keep up the good work Wink Laughing
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 04, 2011 1:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've heard from my man too.

He's salvaged enough from the engine and the parts I gave him to rebuild the engine, although I'll need a set of rings due to the rebore being to coarse these need to come from USA so they'll take time. Although the piston cleaned up it's going to be replaced just to be on the safe side.
He rekons he'll use the Bimota exhaust cam with the Kent Cam inlet, the two profiles match - which is interesting.
As there's time I've said to go ahead an flow the replacement head, it will probably get skimmed too just to be safe.

Intersting too is a possible modification Bimota may have made to the head to create an engine mount, standard Suzuki heads don't seem to have this.


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 04, 2011 1:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Both my SB6 heads have got it and its cast into the head not added afterwards, There are two different part numbers (four if you count the califonia models) for these GSXR heads Wink
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 04, 2011 2:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There two numbers in the Bim Parts book the 46E00 which is the usual European code and 17E20 which might be for somewhere like California.

I think it's odd, if it was a mainstream Suzuki thing then all the heads would have it and it would be used for something. It could be that Bimota requested it to be added and Suzuki would only then use one moulding set for these engines ... although the rest of the machining would be standard in the manufacturing plant.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 04, 2011 2:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Suzuki part numbers for the heads are 46E00 for the early heads
And 46E20 for the later heads

My head has got 46E0 cast into it on the underside of No. 2 carb inlet stub Wink
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 04, 2011 3:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

that actually stands for Evilchicken0 .... gis it back !!!!
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 04, 2011 5:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sharnt Razz

Here's a tip for ya from my man.
Use a 77mm head gasket not a 78mm Wink

Both wiseco and JE headgaskets are cometic head gaskets

Part numbers are:
JE 78mm C8478
JE 77mm C8280

Wisco 77mm W5479

Wisco don't do a 78mm headgasket

If you do go for a 77mm, Eastwood racing in Kent have the Wisco(cometic) in stock Wink
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 04, 2011 5:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I got mine from Debben.

I bet your glad to find they used the wrong gasket to (possibly) cause the problems
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 04, 2011 5:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They actually used the "right" gasket, a 78mm but it dosent leave a lot of sleeve to seal onto which is why my man recomended a 77mm.
Only time will tell if he's right, oh, and £60 for another head gasket Laughing
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