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My Side Stand Mod (SB6)
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brian



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 30, 2013 10:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Or you could just lean it on the fence.

Steve, i hope that second pic is an OLD one. Otherwise... those oil cooler hose ends need a polish my friend. Oops, hope i haven't set off another OCD attack Laughing
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 30, 2013 10:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dont worry Brian...it was an "in=between" photo...ones on the right first stage of clean, on left no stage of clean (of 4 stage process) and the rusty bolts holding the Oil coller are also now replaced...so now go wash that mouth out with soap and water...oh the disgrace of such an assumption... Wink
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 30, 2013 11:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Phew, that's a releif. Thought you might have been slipping in your old age. Silly me, should have known better.

Mouth suitably washed out with soap now Wink
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 31, 2013 3:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

when I first picked her up Very Happy


After the ride height and spring upgrade it was too risky without the block of wood Wink





So it got the mod



No more worries about it falling over and its more comfy to ride without the block of wood in my jacket Very Happy

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 31, 2013 4:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very nice Hursty. How much longer than the original is it? Good job!
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 31, 2013 8:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

brian wrote:
Very nice Hursty. How much longer than the original is it? Good job!

I think you'd be better asking his wife/girlfriend/boyfriend (for political correctness)...men are know to exaggerate when it comes to "length"..... Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 31, 2013 2:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The last shot shows the front forks dropped through the yokes - some say it's for handling but really it's all about the side stand Wink

Screw a door stop on the bottom of the stand
http://www.rosscastors.co.uk/28-6mm-round-black-natural-rubber-door-stop.html?gclid=CKK4soKWwboCFc7JtAodBkQAqA
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 01, 2013 2:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Very nice Hursty. How much longer than the original is it?


About the length of a block of wood Laughing
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 03, 2013 8:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What happens to the side stand is that the whole assembly rotates forward. and the stand moves way from perpendicular. The farther from perpendicular it moves forward the lower the bike sits and the lean increases.

My fix was to loosen the rear engine mount bolt, rotate the side stand assembly rearward and tighten it all back up. I set it so the side stand hits it stop at about 6:30 -7:00 0'clock (a bit straight up , but it works well.) The trick is to get the rear engine mount through bolt wicked tight, so the assembly doesn't rotate forward again. I also simply welded a few button welds on the stopper, so the stand doesn't slide so far forward on itself. A total of about 1/4 inch of weld material did the trick for me.

I also carry a small piece of plastic (it fits in my rear pocket) to put down on any hot blacktop, to stop the sinking stand syndrome....Cool

This is a "super tight budget" fix and in no way is as cool as the fixes I see here. But, when you're a "poor--boy" like me, sometimes you have to make due....... Wink Laughing




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PostPosted: Sun Nov 03, 2013 10:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bimota_rider wrote:
What happens to the side stand is that the whole assembly rotates forward. and the stand moves way from perpendicular. The farther from perpendicular it moves forward the lower the bike sits and the lean increases.

My fix was to loosen the rear engine mount bolt, rotate the side stand assembly rearward and tighten it all back up. I set it so the side stand hits it stop at about 6:30 -7:00 0'clock (a bit straight up , but it works well.) The trick is to get the rear engine mount through bolt wicked tight, so the assembly doesn't rotate forward again. I also simply welded a few button welds on the stopper, so the stand doesn't slide so far forward on itself. A total of about 1/4 inch of weld material did the trick for me.

I also carry a small piece of plastic (it fits in my rear pocket) to put down on any hot blacktop, to stop the sinking stand syndrome....Cool

This is a "super tight budget" fix and in no way is as cool as the fixes I see here. But, when you're a "poor--boy" like me, sometimes you have to make due....... Wink Laughing

Ok - I think what's happened is the locating bolt housing on the side stand mount has broken. It bolts into the exhuast pipe, you can see the braket with captive nut in this picture



Have a look at you bike and chances are you'll find the bolt still in the pipe, mine looked like it had been welded before I don't know if that was standard or not.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 04, 2013 6:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Evil Chicken writes:
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Have a look at you bike and chances are you'll find the bolt still in the pipe, mine looked like it had been welded before I don't know if that was standard or not.


I see what you are speaking of. The locating bolt is intact. The rotation of the side-stand mount assembly will slightly move the rear of your header pipe upward a tad (that is a "metric" tad) ,but it does allow you to rotate the assembly to improve the angle of the side-stand to near vertical and causes your bikes to stand up straighter.....That with the addition of a few strategically placed mig-weld buttons, helped me a bunch.
....To quote my Mom, "Sit up straight or you'll stay that way!!!" LOL
Wink Rolling Eyes Laughing


Here is the end result a much straighter angle, hence a more upright parked angle = no more "mean-lean" and peace of mind if I leave my bike parked somewhere. In my garage, I generally put her up on the rear stand.

p.s. Don't panic, the fluid in the pic is snow melt from the snow-blower parked next to the bike. Crying or Very sad We got hit by a little snow storm yesterday.Crying or Very sad








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PostPosted: Tue Nov 05, 2013 2:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't remember there being any movement once the engine was in and pipes were on but then I could be wrong.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 1:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A very slight upward and very slight radius rearward can be achieved, even more so if you loosen the headers a bit. Embarassed

The most results were achieved by welding some "mig-dots" at the side-stand stop area to stop the forward rotation of the stand on its pivot point, earlier than normal.

I don't know. I just saw this discussion and thought I might throw out there how I solved my "mean - lean," because it bothered me for years and now it is solved......in my, "jury-rig" engineering, kind of way.

I did auto collision, body and frame repair, for 30 years and in that time, I learned the fine art of improvisation....... Embarassed Laughing Wink




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