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brian
Joined: 22 Aug 2011 Posts: 3770 Location: Australia
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Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 11:10 pm Post subject: |
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barnmankit wrote: |
Maybe Bimota could even give an electric bike a soul? |
That will be most difficult in my opinion. An electric motor will never ever have soul like a motorcycle engine. One that comes to mind is the beautiful Vincent V twin 1000, just beautiful! _________________ '99 DB4 #104, '96 SB6 #1165, '94 DB2 J #652, '99 DB4 #088, '08 VTX1800, '93 ZXR750R M1, '95 ZXR750, '95 ZXR750 Race Bike, '94 CBR400rr NC29 Race Bike, '94 CB250, '49 BSA C10 250, '61 BSA A10 650, '89 ZXR750, '91 Ducati 851 |
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vort28
Joined: 22 Mar 2010 Posts: 2194 Location: Northwest , UK
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Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2017 8:30 am Post subject: |
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Picture of a vdue and a few words in this months Performance Bike magazine
saying Bimota has closed and remaining stock sold.
Whether true or not, not good as no one going to buy a bike now. |
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SiBag
Joined: 03 Mar 2012 Posts: 251 Location: Cheshire
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Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2017 12:31 pm Post subject: |
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brian wrote: |
barnmankit wrote: |
Maybe Bimota could even give an electric bike a soul? |
That will be most difficult in my opinion. An electric motor will never ever have soul like a motorcycle engine. One that comes to mind is the beautiful Vincent V twin 1000, just beautiful! |
I had a play on an electric bike the other week at an old US airbase in Oxfordshire.
I must admit it was a hoot, and until you have experienced how strong they pull form the off I wouldn't comment too much.
But I still love petrol.... _________________ Si...
SB6..CCM R30...GSXR-750-M...RGV-250-VJ22.. GSX-1100-EFE Project....Harris Magnum II project...
If its got Ti#s or Wheels its gona give you trouble |
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Evilchicken0
Joined: 12 May 2010 Posts: 2996 Location: London
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Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2017 1:26 pm Post subject: |
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vort28 wrote: |
Picture of a vdue and a few words in this months Performance Bike magazine
saying Bimota has closed and remaining stock sold.
Whether true or not, not good as no one going to buy a bike now. |
I like PB but you'd have thought they could have found an up to date Bimota for the picture - they've test a few since. _________________ Don't read everything you believe |
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2bims
Joined: 03 Apr 2010 Posts: 7292
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Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2017 3:00 pm Post subject: |
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Probably playing with irony.....that the Vdue sunk them once before.....so used the same image this time....rather than trying to print what it actually is that has sunk them...just lazy journo's really....they could have printed a better article just reading this Forum |
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Jaguar
Joined: 15 Sep 2017 Posts: 268 Location: Albany NY
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Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2017 3:21 pm Post subject: |
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Actually an electric Bimota make a whole lot of sense. |
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Evilchicken0
Joined: 12 May 2010 Posts: 2996 Location: London
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Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2017 5:55 pm Post subject: |
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Jaguar wrote: |
Actually an electric Bimota make a whole lot of sense. |
A hybrid would make even more _________________ Don't read everything you believe |
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brian
Joined: 22 Aug 2011 Posts: 3770 Location: Australia
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Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2017 11:22 pm Post subject: |
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SiBag wrote: |
brian wrote: |
barnmankit wrote: |
Maybe Bimota could even give an electric bike a soul? |
That will be most difficult in my opinion. An electric motor will never ever have soul like a motorcycle engine. One that comes to mind is the beautiful Vincent V twin 1000, just beautiful! |
I had a play on an electric bike the other week at an old US airbase in Oxfordshire.
I must admit it was a hoot, and until you have experienced how strong they pull form the off I wouldn't comment too much.
But I still love petrol.... |
I'll just keep my dinosaurs... fuck the future if it's going electric _________________ '99 DB4 #104, '96 SB6 #1165, '94 DB2 J #652, '99 DB4 #088, '08 VTX1800, '93 ZXR750R M1, '95 ZXR750, '95 ZXR750 Race Bike, '94 CBR400rr NC29 Race Bike, '94 CB250, '49 BSA C10 250, '61 BSA A10 650, '89 ZXR750, '91 Ducati 851 |
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barnmankit
Joined: 23 Nov 2014 Posts: 97 Location: Pyrenees, France
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Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2017 8:00 am Post subject: |
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I think we're all with you Brian - nothing will replace the crazy sensations you get from a petrol engine (preferably a v-twin) between your legs. And we're lucky to own machines from a time when Bimota made truly great and unique motorcycles.
But electric is the future, not a shadow of a doubt.
I think you could definitely give an electric bike a soul. Just for starters, how about this: give it a PULSE, that you feel through the saddle and the handlebars when you turn it on; then give it some sound effects, like it takes a deep breath when you open the throttle; and maybe a deliberate transmission whine that turns into a wail at high speed (ever heard the banshee wail of an F1 car from the 2000s?). You could say it's all artificial, but it's not really - electric actually opens up almost infinite possibilities.
You know there's no such thing as progress - only change. First was steam, then oil and petrol, and next is electric. Each era produced amazing machines.
Y'all have a good day! _________________ 1998 Bimota DB2 edizione finale naked
1976 BMW R75/6 tractor (for sale)
ICE recumbent trike
A shed full of bicycles
"We're each given one small grain of madness - if we lose it, we're nothing." Robin Williams |
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brian
Joined: 22 Aug 2011 Posts: 3770 Location: Australia
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Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2017 9:41 am Post subject: |
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barnmankit wrote: |
I think we're all with you Brian - nothing will replace the crazy sensations you get from a petrol engine (preferably a v-twin) between your legs. And we're lucky to own machines from a time when Bimota made truly great and unique motorcycles.
But electric is the future, not a shadow of a doubt.
I think you could definitely give an electric bike a soul. Just for starters, how about this: give it a PULSE, that you feel through the saddle and the handlebars when you turn it on; then give it some sound effects, like it takes a deep breath when you open the throttle; and maybe a deliberate transmission whine that turns into a wail at high speed (ever heard the banshee wail of an F1 car from the 2000s?). You could say it's all artificial, but it's not really - electric actually opens up almost infinite possibilities.
You know there's no such thing as progress - only change. First was steam, then oil and petrol, and next is electric. Each era produced amazing machines.
Y'all have a good day! |
I'm trying to keep an open mind kit and I guess I shouldn't bag electric bikes as I've never ridden one, nor seen one in person to be honest. I'm a bit old school but I know that with time comes progress and change.
I also own a VTX1800 and I read some of the history on the model. Apparently when Honda designed the VTX1800 engine, they purposely built a vibration into it, almost out of balance. It was mainly aimed at the USA market (in competition to a particular American motorcycle I guess). When they released the VT1100, a lot of feedback that they got from the US market was that the engine was just TOO SMOOTH and people wouldn't ride them due to the 'no feel' _________________ '99 DB4 #104, '96 SB6 #1165, '94 DB2 J #652, '99 DB4 #088, '08 VTX1800, '93 ZXR750R M1, '95 ZXR750, '95 ZXR750 Race Bike, '94 CBR400rr NC29 Race Bike, '94 CB250, '49 BSA C10 250, '61 BSA A10 650, '89 ZXR750, '91 Ducati 851 |
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Jaguar
Joined: 15 Sep 2017 Posts: 268 Location: Albany NY
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Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2017 2:35 pm Post subject: |
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I think more people should go try things before sticking their heads in the sand an rejecting it.
In past roles I have worked on the development of electric motorcycles. Ride one and it be comes clear what the strengths AND weaknesses are.
Also there needs to be some context. What if we had ONLY ever riden electric bikes and the "market" was moving to gas engines? Should we judge what is possible or form an opinion on based on the specs of a Vespa? Is that all a gas engine can be?
Personally I am in the camp of wanting my cutting edge performance vehicles to be cutting edge and include the latest and greatest tech.
I cringe when I hear people lament the absents of three pedal manual sports car in the name of "involvement" |
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Evilchicken0
Joined: 12 May 2010 Posts: 2996 Location: London
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Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2017 4:21 pm Post subject: |
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Just think what we used before radial brakes, upside down forks, aluminium beam frames, genesis Yamaha, or 750/4 Honda ..... its just the next thing _________________ Don't read everything you believe |
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Jaguar
Joined: 15 Sep 2017 Posts: 268 Location: Albany NY
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Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2017 6:26 pm Post subject: |
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Correct.
It isnt like the "old" stuff is going to vanish.
I view different eras as being able to offer different experiences that fit different activities.
Electric power is just going to be something new and different.
Key is to find ways to enjoy them for what they are and fill in the gaps with other era stuff. |
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brian
Joined: 22 Aug 2011 Posts: 3770 Location: Australia
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Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2017 9:33 pm Post subject: |
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Like I said... I'm trying to keep an open mind.
If and when I ever get to ride an electric motorcycle, I'll form my own opinion I guess. Not really on my bucket list at this point in time _________________ '99 DB4 #104, '96 SB6 #1165, '94 DB2 J #652, '99 DB4 #088, '08 VTX1800, '93 ZXR750R M1, '95 ZXR750, '95 ZXR750 Race Bike, '94 CBR400rr NC29 Race Bike, '94 CB250, '49 BSA C10 250, '61 BSA A10 650, '89 ZXR750, '91 Ducati 851 |
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2bims
Joined: 03 Apr 2010 Posts: 7292
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Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2017 8:49 am Post subject: |
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And I see that VW have pulled the sale of Ducati...saying they no longer are looking for a buyer....apparently they wanted 1.5billion Euros....and Royal Enfield (India) had offered 2 billion........so someone should call them and tell them Bimota is for sale....offers of 1.50 euros upwards..... |
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