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LucasJ



Joined: 17 Sep 2020
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 11, 2021 3:34 am    Post subject: Santa Monica Rebuild Reply with quote

Greetings all,

Thought I would share the SB8K story with everyone. It's been a great bike to work on and am excited to get it done in due time. Times are slow right now and the 2 kids under 3 keep me plenty busy with COVID on top of the regular work.

Picked this up in Fall 2020 from a collector and good guy out of Ohio.

Background:
Burn victim from New York. Originally imported and sold by Bob from Bimota Spirit. Great guy as well.
The bike originally went to auction, so it's a salvaged title unfortunately.
Carbon Tank
Frame #86

Plan:
Bring it back to as close to factory as possible (minus boring things like exhaust)... Then.. track date for us two. I'm not a perfect conditions kind of guy, so this is the perfect bike for me. Will get it as close to original as possible, ride it and admire. Can't wait to see it run. Goal is Spring time but may be summer 2021.
No interest in selling.

Status:
Came with tail, subframe, coolant tank

Sourced:
Original JG fuel connectors out of a shop in France (original ones melted)
Gauges/ECU
Tail Light
Manuals, quick disconnects and random bits (Thank you Bimota Classic Parts!)
1098 exhaust (will need to bend some pipes as a mock up - Will go with a carbon 2 brothers or similar later)


Still need:
Seat (not the same as the SB8R unfortunately)
Tank repair (cosmetic thankfully)

To be perfect:
Right side fairing (some scratches)
Mirrors (replaced with aftermarket)
That's all I can think of

As purchased:


As it sits:


Latest issue: Some minor separation at the tank seam. Holds fuel perfectly fine but will repair prior to riding.


The electrical problem some of you may recall was fixed with the mystery of the missing ECU. She turns over now.
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brian



Joined: 22 Aug 2011
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Location: Australia

PostPosted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 12:38 pm    Post subject: Re: Santa Monica Rebuild Reply with quote

LucasJ wrote:

Latest issue: Some minor separation at the tank seam. Holds fuel perfectly fine but will repair prior to riding.


Good idea.... wouldn't want it to catch fire now would we Wink


Great project and it's coming along nicely. The shower injection is just COOL Cool
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LucasJ



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 3:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

brian wrote:


Good idea.... wouldn't want it to catch fire now would we Wink

Great project and it's coming along nicely. The shower injection is just COOL Cool


There is nothing more accurate than these 2 statements.

I'll keep this thread alive as I go. Will be slow for now but it's a start.
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Jaguar



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Location: Albany NY

PostPosted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 6:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pictures are not showing up.
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brian



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 1:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jaguar wrote:
Pictures are not showing up.


They show up on my Apple devices ok
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LucasJ



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 2:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some close ups of the burn parts.
Exhaust cans. Fuel pool?


Subframe


Subframe close up.. in case you're interested in knowing layer count...



Saddest wall art? Afterall, I think GOOD art is intended to have an impact on us...

Jaguar wrote:
Pictures are not showing up.


Any luck yet? I can see them on Iphone/Work PC Wink
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brian



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 12:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks like it could have turned out a LOT worse. I never had a bike catch fire but I’ve come close..... due to a lithium battery Crying or Very sad
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Jaguar



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 2:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Going to try and find replacement parts, or just "re body" the bike with something custom?
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vort28



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 18, 2021 8:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OH that is very sad to see.
Just glad its going to see the light of day again !!!! Santamonica's are to gorgeous to not be rescued !!!
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LucasJ



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2021 2:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

brian wrote:
Looks like it could have turned out a LOT worse. I never had a bike catch fire but I’ve come close..... due to a lithium battery Crying or Very sad


Yeah the bike was actually saved by a Good Samaritan. Story goes that a commuter helped put out the fire.. as it turns out, just before the tank/fuel connectors gave out. It’s definitely a lucky save!

Lithium batteries scare me. On par with hydrogen :S

Jaguar:

Plan is to rebuild with SM parts only (minus exhaust) all the bodywork is there, including tail/subframe. Side fairing is a bit scratched but perfectly workable. Honestly, I’d rather have a little rash on original bodywork than the alternative. If SM panels come up one day, I’ll snag them!

Vort:

Couldn’t agree more! I’ll post some progress once made. It’s cleaning up nicely[/quote]


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2021 11:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

LucasJ wrote:


Lithium batteries scare me. Ok par with hydrogen :S




Yeah me too. The lithium battery I had was in my race bike. I think lithium batteries would probably be ok in modern bikes but I’ll never use one in an ‘older’ bike again. Old bikes with old charging systems are just too risky to run a lithium battery in I recon. The reg/rec failed in my race bike and it overcharged the lithium battery resulting in a near fire
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Anders



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2021 2:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

brian wrote:
LucasJ wrote:


Lithium batteries scare me. Ok par with hydrogen :S




Yeah me too. The lithium battery I had was in my race bike. I think lithium batteries would probably be ok in modern bikes but I’ll never use one in an ‘older’ bike again. Old bikes with old charging systems are just too risky to run a lithium battery in I recon. The reg/rec failed in my race bike and it overcharged the lithium battery resulting in a near fire


I have used a LiFePo4 battery in my bb1 for years, using the OEM rect/reg, but I plan to upgrade to a modern regulator, possibly this one:
https://cs-batteries.de/Elektronischer-Mosfet-Spannungsregler-Gleichrichter-fuer-Drehstrom-Lichtmaschinen-und-LiFePo4-Batterien

I think this will be a good solution
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brian



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2021 11:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anders wrote:
brian wrote:
LucasJ wrote:


Lithium batteries scare me. Ok par with hydrogen :S




Yeah me too. The lithium battery I had was in my race bike. I think lithium batteries would probably be ok in modern bikes but I’ll never use one in an ‘older’ bike again. Old bikes with old charging systems are just too risky to run a lithium battery in I recon. The reg/rec failed in my race bike and it overcharged the lithium battery resulting in a near fire


I have used a LiFePo4 battery in my bb1 for years, using the OEM rect/reg, but I plan to upgrade to a modern regulator, possibly this one:
https://cs-batteries.de/Elektronischer-Mosfet-Spannungsregler-Gleichrichter-fuer-Drehstrom-Lichtmaschinen-und-LiFePo4-Batterien

I think this will be a good solution



I'm not willing to take the chance on a lithium battery again. It's just not worth the risk considering how difficult it is to get to the battery on most motorcycles
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Bud977



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 20, 2021 9:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For some reason, Hondas seem more prone to setting on fire. Some will say that is a good thing. Smile They must have particularly bad regulator/rectifiers.

I've got 6 bikes fitted with Lithium batterys. I love them. Forget about trickle chargers, they hold there charge for years. Big cold cranking amps so they will start the most fickle bike.

I even bought a regular lead acid battery for my daughters 660cc MT03 and it wouldn't start it if left for a week or two. Swapped it for a Lithium and now it starts reliably so she can get to work each day.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 21, 2021 10:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

brian wrote:

I'm not willing to take the chance on a lithium battery again. It's just not worth the risk considering how difficult it is to get to the battery on most motorcycles


If anyone should want a lead battery that holds charge and has got extra cranking power, just take a look at the Hawker Odessey series.
https://www.odysseybattery.com/powersport-batteries/

I have one in my Ducati Mille. That bike can stand idle for a year or two (with no trickle charging). Then I open the taps, twist the twistgrip a couple of times and hit the button. It fires right up. I am on the second Hawker batterery in that bike, the first one lasted for 15 years (at least). The only drawback is the wheight, which is even heavier than a normal lead acid.
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