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oily
Joined: 05 Apr 2008 Posts: 4788 Location: worcestershire
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Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 9:29 am Post subject: |
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I really like the trellis frames and all the exotic bit's that go with them........
it's just those badly designed, rattly, fragile lawn mower engines I cant stand.........
Now a couple of people have done the ultimate conversion and thrown TL1000 engines in those frames..................Now we're talking
Not enough cylinders, I know, but at least it's one of Suzuki's hooligan engines |
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Pompey
Joined: 31 Jul 2008 Posts: 2311 Location: Marlborough
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Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 9:33 am Post subject: |
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You are a wise man indeed. The 851 engine is destined for other things as we speak. The doner engine will come from a .... nother ducati. However, it will be a modern St4s ( 996) with an extra 45 bhp then the 851. It also is reliable, although I have never had any trouble with my 888's. Going to try to start rebuilding in ernest this week. _________________ Pomps
Bimota's Db2, Db5 ,Ducati's 851' 92, 888' 93, Honda blade' 93, Triumph speed triple' 07, kawasaki zxr 750 k1 |
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oily
Joined: 05 Apr 2008 Posts: 4788 Location: worcestershire
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Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 9:37 am Post subject: |
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Pompey wrote: |
Going to try to start rebuilding in ernest this week. |
Just as my re-build comes to a dead stop for a few days.............
Off to do a bit of gambling for a few days |
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Pompey
Joined: 31 Jul 2008 Posts: 2311 Location: Marlborough
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Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 9:41 am Post subject: |
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Oh yes, have fun in the sun you two! Stay on the strip and rent some bikes for some desert riding... _________________ Pomps
Bimota's Db2, Db5 ,Ducati's 851' 92, 888' 93, Honda blade' 93, Triumph speed triple' 07, kawasaki zxr 750 k1 |
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Bimsb6
Joined: 15 Oct 2011 Posts: 149 Location: Bedfordshire
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Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 4:33 pm Post subject: |
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don't forget to visit red rock harley davidson ! |
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Pompey
Joined: 31 Jul 2008 Posts: 2311 Location: Marlborough
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Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 6:10 pm Post subject: |
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031 by pompstar, on Flickr
So, this is my other 888 which is a slightly later model then the 851. It should give you an idea of how they look incase you did not know already. _________________ Pomps
Bimota's Db2, Db5 ,Ducati's 851' 92, 888' 93, Honda blade' 93, Triumph speed triple' 07, kawasaki zxr 750 k1 |
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GeorgeV
Joined: 25 Aug 2011 Posts: 159 Location: New York, USA
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Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2011 6:16 am Post subject: |
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That looks like allot of love (and $$$) being put into that Ducati…
George Villar |
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Pompey
Joined: 31 Jul 2008 Posts: 2311 Location: Marlborough
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Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2011 10:10 am Post subject: |
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Its getting there George. Its my favourite type of therapy... Still waiting for some final bits and pieces to start the 851 rebuild before I head off to work again. The best thing is seeing a sad old wreck being brought back to its prime ( or better) and giving it a fresh start. I do the same with my houses and always get a kick out of it. The wifes next. _________________ Pomps
Bimota's Db2, Db5 ,Ducati's 851' 92, 888' 93, Honda blade' 93, Triumph speed triple' 07, kawasaki zxr 750 k1 |
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Pompey
Joined: 31 Jul 2008 Posts: 2311 Location: Marlborough
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Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2011 10:12 am Post subject: |
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I thought you were george the Fifth (V) hehehe... _________________ Pomps
Bimota's Db2, Db5 ,Ducati's 851' 92, 888' 93, Honda blade' 93, Triumph speed triple' 07, kawasaki zxr 750 k1 |
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Pompey
Joined: 31 Jul 2008 Posts: 2311 Location: Marlborough
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Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2011 6:50 pm Post subject: |
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IMG-20111209-00030 by pompstar, on Flickr
Wheels done, refurb of the sprocket carrier and original discs. Got lucky with the wheels themselves which were in great condition, amazingly, under years of grime and mud just left. It may be that the dirt actually protected them from abuse? I'll change the tyres later _________________ Pomps
Bimota's Db2, Db5 ,Ducati's 851' 92, 888' 93, Honda blade' 93, Triumph speed triple' 07, kawasaki zxr 750 k1 |
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Pompey
Joined: 31 Jul 2008 Posts: 2311 Location: Marlborough
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Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 7:20 pm Post subject: |
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Here is a pic of the doner bike. An st4s which is handing over its engine, loom and brain to the 851. The 851 engine will be going into the st4s whcih next year will be either a cafe racer or flat tracker?
IMG_0691 by pompstar, on Flickr
Engine out and ready for treatment.
IMG_0692 by pompstar, on Flickr
a lot of treatment ...
IMG_0693 by pompstar, on Flickr
as will the rad and fan ...
IMG_0694 by pompstar, on Flickr _________________ Pomps
Bimota's Db2, Db5 ,Ducati's 851' 92, 888' 93, Honda blade' 93, Triumph speed triple' 07, kawasaki zxr 750 k1 |
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stockcar
Joined: 07 Apr 2011 Posts: 836 Location: in the shadow of the "angel"
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Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 8:37 pm Post subject: |
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sorry if i missed it but why swap the 2x engines around?? |
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Desmo_Demon
Joined: 19 Sep 2011 Posts: 240 Location: Easley, SC, USA
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Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 10:06 pm Post subject: |
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Pompey wrote: |
However, it will be a modern St4s ( 996) with an extra 45 bhp then the 851. It also is reliable, although I have never had any trouble with my 888's. |
There is a slight chance that this ST4s engine may run into the "flakey rocker syndrome" that most post-'96 Desmoquattro engines are prone to experience. I'd check the rockers prior to installing the engine in the 851 and then make sure you check them with each valve adjustment/check. I've got a 2002 748 and have gone through 4 rockers at 6k miles and a few more at 18k miles when I installed Megacycle resurfaced openers. Only the openers have gone bad in my 748...so far. _________________ Look for my books...
"If I Wrap It Tight Enough"
"The Journals: If I Wrap It Tight Enough"
"Map Junkie: My Motorcycle Journeys"
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Pompey
Joined: 31 Jul 2008 Posts: 2311 Location: Marlborough
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Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 10:30 pm Post subject: |
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Thats great advice. I had the rockers and valves checked today in fact. I also changed the belts as I had no service history... _________________ Pomps
Bimota's Db2, Db5 ,Ducati's 851' 92, 888' 93, Honda blade' 93, Triumph speed triple' 07, kawasaki zxr 750 k1 |
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Pompey
Joined: 31 Jul 2008 Posts: 2311 Location: Marlborough
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Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 10:37 pm Post subject: |
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stockcar wrote: |
sorry if i missed it but why swap the 2x engines around?? |
The 851 is an ex world endurance race bike and as such has a strong engine but very highly strung. The st4s engine is modern, 996 and 35 bhp more then the 851 even though its been tuned down for torque so perfect for high mileage and reliability. It is a common mod among 888 enthusiasts. I bought the ST4 for just 1500 pounds, it would cost far more then that to try to get the 851 to the same power and it would be a engine strip every other ride! I was going to sell the remainder of the ST4 in bits but I have a v5 and what better use of the 851 engine instead of it jammed up against the garage wall for years. That will be next winters project. _________________ Pomps
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