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oily

Joined: 05 Apr 2008 Posts: 4788 Location: worcestershire
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Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 7:54 pm Post subject: |
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Time to have a look at reducing the gargantuan amount of play in the gear change lever...........
I wonder if someone out there in engineering design land could explain how/why/what this totally inadequate design managed to slip through the net and make it into production........
The bearing surface is aluminium on aluminium so as soon as you add a little lubrication and dust/grit/road dirt you have a wonderful substitute for.........grinding past
I can't understand the aluminium nut of which I have a total of 11 on my bikes and amongst my spares. 9 of them have split
Short of a total redesign (which might yet happen) I've cleaned up and took a skim off the very worn foot peg, made a stainless nut which should last longer without splitting and now I need to turn a new, oversized "top hat" collar and whack a thread on the end for the new nut......
and everything should be back in factory tolerances (measured to the nearest inch).
I'll probably turn the collar tomorrow
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Pompey

Joined: 31 Jul 2008 Posts: 2311 Location: Marlborough
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Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 8:10 pm Post subject: |
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good man. keep it going, needs to be finished by July  _________________ Pomps
Bimota's Db2, Db5 ,Ducati's 851' 92, 888' 93, Honda blade' 93, Triumph speed triple' 07, kawasaki zxr 750 k1 |
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Evilchicken0

Joined: 12 May 2010 Posts: 2996 Location: London
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Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 10:19 pm Post subject: |
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I thought a large round collar is a turtle neck _________________ Don't read everything you believe |
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brian

Joined: 22 Aug 2011 Posts: 3790 Location: Australia
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Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 3:59 pm Post subject: |
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Hey oily, just curious... how many klm's / miles on this SB6? I'm just wondering when i can expect bits like this to be worn out on my SB6.
Cheers,
Brian _________________ '99 DB4 #104, '96 SB6 #1165, '94 DB2 J #652, '99 DB4 #088, '08 VTX1800, '93 ZXR750R M1, '95 ZXR750, '95 ZXR750 Race Bike, '94 CBR400rr NC29 Race Bike, '94 CB250, '49 BSA C10 250, '61 BSA A10 650, '89 ZXR750, '91 Ducati 851 |
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oily

Joined: 05 Apr 2008 Posts: 4788 Location: worcestershire
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Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 4:26 pm Post subject: |
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This is a mega high mileage SB6...........bout 12K
I think Bimota built their bikes like race bikes.....needing a total rebuild every season
Typical Italian, they look really good...............
BUT...all the little things are designed badly and the wrong materials are used rtc. etc.(which makes you wonder why they are so expensive) but that's what stops them being boring
Half the fun is re-building them PROPERLY  |
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MARTIN
Joined: 09 Dec 2009 Posts: 226 Location: ABERDEEN SCOTLAND
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Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 12:37 am Post subject: |
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Going back to the coolant pipes.I notice that mine and others,the small hose from the thermostat body loops onto the metal pipe that is connected to
the top radiator hose feed.
Yet in the SB6/ _________________ Marty
State of the art and leading edge of cocking things up
(00) SB6 (95) HD FXDWG STRETCH (01)GSXR1000K1 |
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MARTIN
Joined: 09 Dec 2009 Posts: 226 Location: ABERDEEN SCOTLAND
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Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 12:47 am Post subject: |
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Going back to the coolant pipes.I notice that mine and others,the small hose from the thermostat body loops onto the metal pipe that is connected to
the top radiator hose feed.
Yet in the SB6/SB7 diagrams it shows the "bypass" hose connecting to a t-piece on the bottom radiator hose to water pump.
Was this a mod for the SB7
Looking at what I (we) have, it would seem,what ever state the thermostat was in bypass or full open there would be no difference.
Yet by diagram, on bypass (cold?) water would flow around only engine not radiator, and when open (hot ?) would flow to radiator.
Is my logic wrong,I await wisdom !!! _________________ Marty
State of the art and leading edge of cocking things up
(00) SB6 (95) HD FXDWG STRETCH (01)GSXR1000K1 |
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oily

Joined: 05 Apr 2008 Posts: 4788 Location: worcestershire
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Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 8:01 am Post subject: |
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Are we bored Marty?
All we need to know is that it's a Bimota design backed by top secret theory
Firstly, are you looking at the SB7/6 parts list with 03/96 date on the front cover?
if so there appears to be a lot of parts in there that were used on the gsxr but not on the sb6 (I know little about the sb7).
The pipe you refer to is as you say, the thermostat bypass to ensure a trickle flow of water around the system when cold. It's fairly irrelevant where this hose comes from or too as long as it bypasses the closed thermostat and allows the engine to warm quickly.
A lot of car (much larger) thermostats have a hole drilled in them to act as a by-pass but Bimota has used a minute (moped?) thermostat compared to even the GSXR, maybe that's why they use such a large bypass hose.
To answer your question........
Yes, your logic is sound.
In theory, the diagram would work better than what we have been given but I suspect the system was modified to reduce overheating with such a small thermostat  |
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oily

Joined: 05 Apr 2008 Posts: 4788 Location: worcestershire
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Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 8:12 am Post subject: |
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Just studying the coolant diagram further (dia 20) and, correct me if I'm wrong, but it shows the battery's being vented into the cooling system and vice versa
perhaps proof that we shouldn't take the parts diagrams too seriously  |
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MARTIN
Joined: 09 Dec 2009 Posts: 226 Location: ABERDEEN SCOTLAND
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Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 12:02 pm Post subject: |
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Yep I am bored, run out of funny stories to read
As my batteries have no vent on them (sealed units) overlooked that part
but the arrangement on the diagram may keep your battries nice and warm,or introduce an nice acidic level to the coolant to keep those internal pipes nice and clean  _________________ Marty
State of the art and leading edge of cocking things up
(00) SB6 (95) HD FXDWG STRETCH (01)GSXR1000K1 |
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oily

Joined: 05 Apr 2008 Posts: 4788 Location: worcestershire
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Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 4:17 pm Post subject: |
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Been a bit neglectful on this project since before Christmas really, due to weddings, holidays, hospitals, work, family, searching world wide for another Bimota etc, etc...............
BUT...
we may be back on course now that I've collected the carbon rear wheel from my machinist and the loom has dried out. I've got a few days off work now, so watch this space.......................  |
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Pompey

Joined: 31 Jul 2008 Posts: 2311 Location: Marlborough
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Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 5:59 pm Post subject: |
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I hope so. Its all I can look forward to for the next 5 months!  _________________ Pomps
Bimota's Db2, Db5 ,Ducati's 851' 92, 888' 93, Honda blade' 93, Triumph speed triple' 07, kawasaki zxr 750 k1 |
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oily

Joined: 05 Apr 2008 Posts: 4788 Location: worcestershire
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Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 12:24 pm Post subject: |
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Here we go.......
Trial fit of the rear wheel with it's new disc carrier
Fit's no problem, now to get the tyre fitted and balanced and that'll be another part of the jigsaw sorted
...A word of advice to all potential wheel swappers.....
Whilst this little exercise proves, you can make almost any wheels fit almost any bike (despite Dymag disagreeing) Triumph wheels are defiantly not the best bet for adjusting to Bimota fitment
Lot of blood, sweat and tears (and wonga) went into this conversion but I'm as pleased with the result as much as the purists will be horrified  |
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stockcar
Joined: 07 Apr 2011 Posts: 836 Location: in the shadow of the "angel"
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Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 8:43 pm Post subject: |
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looks shoite, reckon you should let me take it off your hands to stop any further offence...........  |
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Gregorio 998S
Joined: 18 Jan 2012 Posts: 5 Location: Szentendre, Hungary
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Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 9:56 pm Post subject: |
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wow!
I can just say that impressive amount and quality of work was invested to this bike.
would you post some pics and measurements of the spacers used on the front and rear wheels?
what are these Dymags originally made for? a 999 line Ducati?
respect for this build!
[quote="oily"]Here we go.......
Whilst this little exercise proves, you can make almost any wheels fit almost any bike (despite Dymag disagreeing) Triumph wheels are defiantly not the best bet for adjusting to Bimota fitment |
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